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NS working to develop locomotive battery system
Two days after announcing plans to work with GE Transportation to implement movement planner software across its network, Norfolk Southern Railway unveiled another partnership with a supplier aimed at advancing the latest locomotive technology, Progressive Railroading reported.

On Wednesday, NS announced it's working with Axion Power International Inc. to develop a battery management system designed to operate locomotives on battery power and recharge their batteries through regenerative braking. The system would feature Axion Power's PbC batteries to enable selected locomotives to operate without diesel generator sets, helping make NS' trains the "cleanest in North America," according to Axion Power.

"The key will be developing a battery management system that is robust, safe, dependable and easy to maintain," said Axion Power Chairman and Chief Executive Officer Thomas Granville in a prepared statement. "We are highly confident, based on our ongoing work, that this system can be successfully demonstrated in a fairly short timeframe."

(The preceding report appeared on the Web site www.progressiverailroading.com on June 10, 2010.)

 

June 11, 2010


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http://burningjournal.activeboard.com/forum.spark?aBID=105367&p=3&topicID=36423086


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All,

Is there any follow-up on this or similar programs? 

I have been driving a Toyota Prius for three years and love it.  The regenerative braking and coasting makes a lot of sense to me.  It nets out to 45 mpg or better in city driving and a bit less on the hiway.  It is fun to watch the battery symbol build up charge on a long downhill drive.  There is no fuel consumed when stopped at a traffic light.

Since a locomotive already has engine, gen, and traction motors, it would seem fairly simple to conjure up control and batteries to do something similar.  Heck, you could probably cram a few traction motors in the unit holding the batteries.

Miss my old truck tho-----------------wes 



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wes wrote:

All,

Is there any follow-up on this or similar programs? 

I have been driving a Toyota Prius for three years and love it.  The regenerative braking and coasting makes a lot of sense to me.  It nets out to 45 mpg or better in city driving and a bit less on the hiway.  It is fun to watch the battery symbol build up charge on a long downhill drive.  There is no fuel consumed when stopped at a traffic light.

Since a locomotive already has engine, gen, and traction motors, it would seem fairly simple to conjure up control and batteries to do something similar.  Heck, you could probably cram a few traction motors in the unit holding the batteries.

Miss my old truck tho-----------------wes 


 There are some old friends out west completely enjoying battery rejuvenating dynamic braking technology via retro fit electric bike kits from BionX. Not an NS locomotive, but we did digress a bit to Prius and my astute NS friend at this place is also sometimes known by the completely appropriate nickname BikenFuhrer.

http://electriccyclery.com/bionx_PL350_SL_XL_special_edition.html






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Come on you hoggers; how come you guys are withholding what all you know about regen power and braking?

There must be conspiracy stories here, conflits of interest, lawsuits, invention fraud, who knows what else?

Don't hold back--let's air it out.

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Yep wes, follow the hyperlink provided by Calvin. Most of the hoggers here run other than yard jobs. NS might have stationed their 'experimental' battery only locos at a secret location. Nice idea, ya gotta give 'em kudos for trying, but with the tonnage, and the availability/duty-cycles, it's very doubtful that these things will become a reality on Class-I outfits in a meaningful way.

And there's the need ta recharge. What then? When they piss out when needed most, ya gotta fetch 'em, more'n likely attached to a cut of cars... Cut the dead unit off, drag it back in to the charging station, then finish the original job with a conventional switcher, or a hybrid/diesel-electric.

The gen-set "Green Goat" locos seem better suited to this intermittent duty. Running the regen units as line-haul/main power... Nope!



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But this outfit might fill in while the 'regen' gets a thorough breaking in at NS.

www.brookvillecorp.com/locomotive-congeneration.asp

And there's this 'update' for the NS-999 nicknamed the "Green Weenie" for reasons only known to that outfit. Weird, or not...no date is given or credited to the article. But here ya go anyway

http://cleantechnica.com/2013/10/26/new-life-green-weenie-electric-locomotive/



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They named it after Snippy...

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