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ALCO DL-202 & DL-203 Black Maria
Power typeDiesel-electric
BuilderAmerican Locomotive Company
Serial number7125771258 (A units), 69974 (B unit)
ModelDL-202-2 (A units) and DL203-2 (B unit)
Total production2 A units, 1 B unit
AAR wheel arr.B-B
UIC classificationBo'Bo'
Prime moverALCO 241
Engine type4-stroke diesel
CylindersV12
Power output1,500 hp (1.12 MW)
Number1500A,B,C
DispositionAll scrapped, September 1947

The ALCO DL-202-2 and DL-203-2 diesel-electric locomotive (known informally as the Black Maria) was an experimental freight locomotive produced by ALCO of Schenectady, New York.[1] The two A units were built in January 1945 and the B unit at a later date in 1945. The total production run included 2 cab DL202-2 A units, and a single DL203-2 B cabless booster) unit. The locomotives were powered by a V12 ALCO 241 diesel engine, rated at 1,500 hp (1.1 MW). The units were released for test in September 1945. The locomotive could attain a top speed of 80 mph (Freight) and 125 mph (Passenger).[2] With the B-B wheel arrangement and carbody construction, equipment layout and electrical gear these experimental units were the immediate predecessors of the FA units to come in early 1946.

The three units were numbered 1500A, B, C and were tested on the New York Central Railroad, the Delaware and Hudson Railroad, the New York, New Haven and Hartford Railroad, and the Bangor and Aroostook Railroad,[3] among others. They were scrapped in September 1947.[1]



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A 241? I never knew that such a creature existed.

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I didn't realize they had such a short life span, I knew they'd been built as an experiment but what a short-lived experiment it was.

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I'd heard of the "Black Maria" from a copy of the
"Diesel Spotters Guide" back in 1967. The "sad
face" cab design.

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About the same period (mid-ta late 1940s) Baldwin built a few 'sad-faced' cab units as well. They were on some weird truck/axle configuration, with Westinghouse motors... They used engines adapted from old marine engines. ALCO's 241 was a piece of shit! I've worked on a few...way back when.

The 251 was a real railroad engine! It put everything else built bu GE, EMD, Baldwin..ta shame. GE was starting ta become stingy with traction equipment, and decided ta compete head-ta-head with ALCO.

ALCO shoulda aligned with Westinghouse. Their motors, generators, and switch gear was as good as anybody's. Maybe working together, the two would still be alive and kicking, building locomotives.



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