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Thunderwagon5000 wrote:

The new age of post Lac Megantic has begun.


 +1 The return ride of Ricky Gates.



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I cant ever remember a BN/BNSF CEO showing up at derailment/
disaster. Maybe some trackage that got hit by a tsunami or flood
ravaged or something "force majeur". But Ed Burkhardt of the
Montreal, Maine, and Atlantic railroad just had to make an appearance
in the devastated town of 6000 people with a zero chance of making
anything "right". I can sure see the "old school" attitude/approach
and from a person that is so rich. He seems confident that this whole
disaster is covered one way or another without any big hit on the
bottom line.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_Burkhardt

http://www.cbc.ca/player/News/TV+Shows/The+National/ID/2396427892/



-- Edited by The Krink on Friday 12th of July 2013 01:56:24 AM

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The Bizarre PR Disaster of the Quebec Train Explosion

 

 

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/global/2013/07/bizarre-pr-disaster-quebec-train-explosion/67107/



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French are not fairing well lately......

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/07/12/paris-train-derails/2512431/



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I was going to add Troll that this MIR period has hit the
railroads pretty hard the last week or so. This is just
another MIR disaster on the rails and France gets in on it.

Six killed as commuter train derails in Paris suburb

http://www.france24.com/en/20130712-france-train-accident-paris-casualties



-- Edited by The Krink on Saturday 13th of July 2013 01:18:26 AM

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I am at a loss for words . It's just a little too much.



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This isn't the first time for Burkhardt...in 1996 the WC tried blowing up the town of Weyauwega when a rail broke under a train. A number of propane tanks were on fire but there was no earth shattering ka-boom. The town was evacuated for something like 3 weeks and it drew the wrath of the FRA and every swinging dick with a cause.

I know the crew involved, and I was told by several in management that if the hawg had done anything wrong at any time on that trip...sped by 1 mph for 20 feet, short whistled, anything...he would have been fired.

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Interresting article...

http://www.rogerannis.com/death-train-in-quebec-a-story-of-rail-and-fossil-fuel-industry-g 

 



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Wow mntman...you've be holding back on us. Very informative
link.

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When Burkhardt was first heard on the radio the disastrous PR was evident immediately. Disgust is not quite enough language to express the general mood he sparked. Then when he was seen on TV news with that nervous smirk, well I don't think he should have showed up in town but he did. Mntmann's link is a find, alright. Thank you very much, tu.



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LAC-MEGANTIC, Quebec (AP) The engineer who parked the oil train that rolled away, derailed and exploded in the center of a Quebec town was heard from Tuesday for the first time since the July 6 disaster that killed 50 people, with his lawyer saying he is "devastated."

Journalists, meanwhile, were allowed their first close-up view of the disaster, where misshapen, blackened oil tankers were still steaming from the intense heat that has slowed the recovery of bodies.

Lawyer Thomas Walsh said Tom Harding needs time to recover from the shock. Walsh said he hopes to get psychological help for his client, who has been staying at an undisclosed location to stay away from the media.

"I used the word 'devastated,' and I think that's one word that's applicable, but he's very, very low," Walsh said.

Harding had not spoken publicly since the Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway train hurtled down a seven-mile (11-kilometer) incline, derailed and ignited in Lac-Megantic, near the Maine border. All but one of its 73 cars was carrying oil, and at least five exploded.

The crash, the worst railway accident in Canada in nearly 150 years, has raised questions about the growing use of rail to transport oil in North America.

Harding had left the train unattended overnight to sleep at a local inn shortly before it barreled into town, devastating the downtown bar area and forcing a third of the 6,000 residents to flee. Officials said Tuesday that another body had been recovered, for a total of 38, and 12 have not been identified. The search continued for 12 bodies amid hazardous conditions.

A local cabbie who picked up Harding from work the night of the accident said the idling train was expelling more smoke than usual. He remembered seeing oil droplets landing on his car and asking Harding twice about it. He said Harding responded that he'd followed the proper procedures before he retired to the inn.

An inn employee said the engineer had a look of terror on his face as he bolted from his room after hearing the explosion.

Edward Burkhardt, president and CEO of the railway's U.S.-based parent company, Rail World Inc., has singled out the engineer as culpable. Burkhardt questioned whether he had properly set enough hand brakes and said the engineer had been suspended without pay.

Walsh said he would advise Harding not to make any kind of public statement about the disaster or the allegations of his culpability.

"I think we're better to let the dust settle and find out the specifics from the investigators maybe if there are some specifics, he might want to respond to them," the lawyer said.

He said Harding has been co-operating with officials.

"He was interviewed for a long period of time by the Surete du Quebec (Quebec police) and by the safety investigators from Transport Canada last week," Walsh said.

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I find engineers to be some of the most trustworthy individuals.
I think this Tom Harding fellow is just that. Been through the
drill with one-man-crews and all the responsibilty. Its this
all-day-long problems with the locomotive consist moving
from A to B with the fire dept called in to put out the fire
in a small town before the trains passed through Megantic
and unusual smoke still rising from them at that siding above
town. What if the locos just shut down on their own when
they are supposed to be running? What if just one shut-down,
would that be enough to lose grip? So far I havent heard how
many cars derailed out of the 73 and how did the locomotive
consist fare in all this.

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OK...I'm ready to dismiss the locomotives in this latest
news that it comes down to the amount of hand-brakes
set by the going off-duty engineer. Maybe this has been
brought up before...the proceedure for a train coming
to rest for a period of time on a siding on a grade, that
sufficient hand-brakes be set. In order to come up with
the sufficient amount of brakes to be set is done by setting
the amount you think and have the locomotive consist
try to pull them. If they wont budge, then you got a
sufficient amount of hand-brakes set. Now I would love
to read the current employee timetable for this subdivn.

 

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-- Edited by The Krink on Saturday 20th of July 2013 02:01:31 AM

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LAC-MÉGANTIC Canadian authorities sifting through debris in Lac-Mégantic, Quebec, have raised the official death toll to 42 persons.

Quebec provincial police recovered remains of four additional people who died as a result of the July 6 tank car train derailment and fire. Police assume as many as 50 people were killed when a crude oil-laden Montreal, Maine & Atlantic Railway train rolled uncontrollably into the town and crashed.

The rising death toll comes as 79 MM&A workers, 19 Canadians and 60 Americans, received layoff notices this week due to lack of traffic on the railroads main line. The company says the layoffs are temporary until revenue rebounds.

While the railroad is still running local service in Quebec and Maine, through traffic that would have passed over the MM&A main line in Lac-Mégantic has dropped significantly. Canadian officials control the crash site and have given no timetables for releasing the area affected back to local officials or the railroad. Pan Am Railways and the St. Lawrence & Atlantic Railroad have taken over shipping to a handful of MM&A customers in Maine in the meantime.

In response to the Lac-Mégantic accident, the Canadian National and Canadian Pacific railroads say they are reviewing procedures for securing stopped trains.



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What this whole catastrophe was is the "worst MIR train wreck" in history.
The hoghead already had a bad day by having to stop to put out an engine
fire. Then to the designated spot/siding to tie the train down and hit the
motel for some rest/recovery. Thought every thing was ok when I left
but I awaken to find out different. Think maybe we all may have had
situations similiar that dint turn into a catastrophe but maybe we caught
a break somehow. This engineer had the worst day of his life it turns
out....and the guy did make an attempt to tie-down the train and
do what he's done many times before without issue. It just MIR
gone wild on a railroad.

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