Funny you should notice this only after reading a blog concerning coal trains moving through your childhood home Krink.
BNSF has been running as many as seven, eight trains north, enroute to Roberts Bank, British Columbia, Canada, every day, and a like number of empties returning through our state.
I'd rather have Washington as the destination of choice for any transloading facility for Asia bound coal, than Canada, or Oregon. Why? Jobs. Taxes. And quieting the complainers, whiners, and NIMBYs who only notice the railroad (Which has been around at least 100 years here) when it 'disrupts' their drive times.
Coal transload facilities must, by law file more than one environmental impact statements before siting any facility at any location. Those 'statements' must satisfy the municipality (Wherever sited), state, and the federal EPA requirements. And that's BEFORE one spade of ground is turned in the groundbreaking ceremony prior to building said facility.
Let's build it here in Washington at say Longview, or Vancouver Port. Keep the new jobs here.
That's my opinion, and I'm stickin' to it!
Snippy said
4:58 PM, 02/23/12
So, you want to steal jobs from Snippylvania? We already have the dirt and grime and crappy coal dust everywhere and have had it that way for over 100 years. Nobody complains much anymore. We are the current kings of Asian coal, except now that Australia is back shipping again.
Thanks, Ranger Uke. You selphish phukk.
Buckethead said
7:28 PM, 02/23/12
Snippy wrote:
So, you want to steal jobs from Snippylvania? We already have the dirt and grime and crappy coal dust everywhere and have had it that way for over 100 years. Nobody complains much anymore. We are the current kings of Asian coal, except now that Australia is back shipping again.
Thanks, Ranger Uke. You selphish phukk.
Currently...
Uke said
8:44 PM, 02/23/12
There's definitely a disconnect here, between the 'environmentalists,' and the people who work. Real jobs...good paying jobs as builders, transportation jobs, shipping jobs, railroad jobs... They want every square inch of the "Evergreen State" to be just that, ever green! No building of any kind! No exceptions. But they still drive, and shop, and drive their imported cars to and fro, to work, to shop, to dine out...to camp, and hike, ski, climb mountains!
They've forgotten where their cars came from, let alone how they got here from Asia. Not ta mention where the food, clothing, and everything else they buy when they shop came from, or how it got to the stores where they shop.
They choose to forget everything. Selective self-righteousness is like that. It's a delusional religiosity that infects the dreamers. The railroads have been here for 150 years, and not one of these holier than thou types can name one thing that they own, that was moved by a train at some point between the manufacturer, and the retailer where they bought it!
Idiots. Some people refuse to see reality until it kills them. Then they'll be buried in a pine box made in China. But by then it won't matter much anyway.
mntman said
11:34 PM, 02/23/12
Ya, but at least the Pine will be imported from
us before it's exported back assembled to us....
The Krink said
10:52 AM, 02/24/12
Uke wrote:
Funny you should notice this only after reading a blog concerning coal trains moving through your childhood home Krink.
BNSF has been running as many as seven, eight trains north, enroute to Roberts Bank, British Columbia, Canada, every day, and a like number of empties returning through our state.
Uke I noticed this thing from day one, just first time I've
said anything about it I think. Can anyone on a train crew
in the state of Washington recall seeing "coal dust" blowing
from the hopper tops of a coal train? I can't imagine any dust
could be left after the trains journey from Wyoming. It blows
like hell there always. Montana same thing. Oregon same thing.
Eastern Washington same thing.
Are you sure about the 8 loaded coal going north daily.
I listen to the scanner all the time I dont hear the "lingo"
to indicate such. 8 north would be one every 3 hrs. Maybe
I need to listen closer.
Freddie Krueger said
2:05 PM, 02/24/12
Go ahead and steal the work from Virginia, they want to probe orifices all the time.
Snippy said
2:17 PM, 02/24/12
It's just a non-intrusive VAginal ultrasound. You'll enjoy it.
Freddie Krueger said
2:21 PM, 02/24/12
Do you enjoy it?????
Snippy said
2:46 PM, 02/24/12
The Republicunts assured me that you would.
Uke said
7:12 PM, 02/24/12
Coal heading ta Roberts Bank has slowed ta maybe four, five trains lately. Can't tell ya why it's dropped off... But it has. For a while last year, Nov., Dec. it was hot. They rolled through Interbay/Balmer three, or four in an eight hour shift.
Once all the garbage was cleared... The commuters, intermodals, manifests, and U-trains of real garbage... The coal trains took over!
You know the routing. Through Everett, across the SnoHo, up and over Hwy. 11, and through BellingScam. Through the gates inta Canada.
Freddie Krueger said
1:29 AM, 02/25/12
Why are the Republicunts talking to you?
Calvin said
9:19 AM, 02/25/12
First off, I think its pretty safe ta say the crew who runs the train over the road doesn't dump the cars.
They may have to wait for the set off track to get clear of the train before it, but everywhere I've ever been the mechanical dept/ or the mechanical dept with assistance from a local/yard crew crew dumps the cars.
The road crew pulls in and goes to the hotel to be rested when the emptys are ready to head back to the mine.
Now, Loading is another matter, but everywhere I know that flood loads has a local crew doing that job, then the road crew takes over.
-- Edited by Calvin on Saturday 25th of February 2012 09:21:56 AM
The Krink said
9:53 AM, 02/25/12
Well the subject at hand got a bit more defined with this latest development.
It seems the GPNW has been targeted for several huge
coal off loading facilities to keep the flow of coal going
somewhere. You can bet the BNSF and UP are working
hard to make it so. Bellingham Wa. has made the biggest
stink about any coal depot located nearby and the
disruptions to city traffic at the crossings. Bellingham
was wise enough to "not approve" flouride in the
drinking water. Also they have a university there.
But they are extremely ignorant of what the railroad
running through the town is capable of. I grew up in
Bham, the GN/BN/BNSF line running through town never
saw more than a dozen trains a day plus Amtrak. Would
think the Bham Sub is all CTC by now. They could run
22-26 trains a day at capacity. This would be 5L+5E
coal trains on top of existing traffic. Marysville Wa. has
also expressed concerns about all the extra railroad
traffic basically "cutting the town in two" for any length
of time. The railroad is going to do what it wants to do.
If its a successful venture, the railroads will help "straighten
out" the most needed corrections with the locals over time.
http://earthjustice.org/blog/2012-february/coos-bay-oregon-is-coal-industry-s-latest-target
Funny you should notice this only after reading a blog concerning coal trains moving through your childhood home Krink.
BNSF has been running as many as seven, eight trains north, enroute to Roberts Bank, British Columbia, Canada, every day, and a like number of empties returning through our state.
I'd rather have Washington as the destination of choice for any transloading facility for Asia bound coal, than Canada, or Oregon. Why? Jobs. Taxes. And quieting the complainers, whiners, and NIMBYs who only notice the railroad (Which has been around at least 100 years here) when it 'disrupts' their drive times.
Coal transload facilities must, by law file more than one environmental impact statements before siting any facility at any location. Those 'statements' must satisfy the municipality (Wherever sited), state, and the federal EPA requirements. And that's BEFORE one spade of ground is turned in the groundbreaking ceremony prior to building said facility.
Let's build it here in Washington at say Longview, or Vancouver Port. Keep the new jobs here.
That's my opinion, and I'm stickin' to it!
We already have the dirt and grime and crappy coal dust everywhere and have had it that way for over 100 years. Nobody complains much anymore. We are the current kings of Asian coal, except now that Australia is back shipping again.
Thanks, Ranger Uke. You selphish phukk.
Currently...
They've forgotten where their cars came from, let alone how they got here from Asia. Not ta mention where the food, clothing, and everything else they buy when they shop came from, or how it got to the stores where they shop.
They choose to forget everything. Selective self-righteousness is like that. It's a delusional religiosity that infects the dreamers. The railroads have been here for 150 years, and not one of these holier than thou types can name one thing that they own, that was moved by a train at some point between the manufacturer, and the retailer where they bought it!
Idiots. Some people refuse to see reality until it kills them. Then they'll be buried in a pine box made in China. But by then it won't matter much anyway.
Ya, but at least the Pine will be imported from
us before it's exported back assembled to us....
Uke I noticed this thing from day one, just first time I've
said anything about it I think. Can anyone on a train crew
in the state of Washington recall seeing "coal dust" blowing
from the hopper tops of a coal train? I can't imagine any dust
could be left after the trains journey from Wyoming. It blows
like hell there always. Montana same thing. Oregon same thing.
Eastern Washington same thing.
Are you sure about the 8 loaded coal going north daily.
I listen to the scanner all the time I dont hear the "lingo"
to indicate such. 8 north would be one every 3 hrs. Maybe
I need to listen closer.
Once all the garbage was cleared... The commuters, intermodals, manifests, and U-trains of real garbage... The coal trains took over!
You know the routing. Through Everett, across the SnoHo, up and over Hwy. 11, and through BellingScam. Through the gates inta Canada.
First off, I think its pretty safe ta say the crew who runs the train over the road doesn't dump the cars.
They may have to wait for the set off track to get clear of the train before it, but everywhere I've ever been the mechanical dept/ or the mechanical dept with assistance from a local/yard crew crew dumps the cars.
The road crew pulls in and goes to the hotel to be rested when the emptys are ready to head back to the mine.
Now, Loading is another matter, but everywhere I know that flood loads has a local crew doing that job, then the road crew takes over.
-- Edited by Calvin on Saturday 25th of February 2012 09:21:56 AM
Well the subject at hand got a bit more defined with this latest
development.
Big coal terminal planned on Columbia River
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20120223/NEWS03/702239863#Big-coal-terminal-planned-on-Columbia-River