So now the burn ban has taken away a yule-tide favorite of having a roaring fire to accentuate the rich/elite ritual/traditional lifestyle at Christmas time. Well things are different today. The key to celebrating or just keeping warm during the Christmas week cold weather is to have "dry firewood". I have fireplace experience growing up. We had a glass-door enclosure on the front and what was called a"Heatalator" device built into the fireplace which recycle the heat added extra heat. Well after all my experiences with wood for heat to date...number one is find a great woodstove and after that its who you get your wood from. Some of you might enjoy going after your years supply of firewood, sawing it up and loading your pick-up truck to where it looks funny. Yeah...I'm not that type but my woodguy is 77 says he's being doing this for 70 years. So I'm going with the woodguy for next few years.
-- Edited by The Krink on Thursday 26th of December 2013 01:58:40 AM
The Krink said
1:07 AM, 12/27/13
Early morning Boxing Day, the GPNW goes under the burnban.
Great news. I burned my way through one everyone so far so
I must not be making much smoke. I go out an look at the
chimney stack a couple times a night just to make sure there
is "no smoke". I keep the fire hot and active until bedtime and
the last stick of wood goes in with no adjustment of the
damper. If you "turn down the fire" means its not getting the
proper amount of air to burn without causing a lot of smoke.
So you dont want to do that. Burn it hot the whole time and
your house will be warm+ at bedtime. The fire goes out just
before dawn and all the people just getting up and going
to work on foot or bike wont be breathing any of my
woodstove smoke...just the regular automobile/diesel
trucks/buses emmisions. Then you can add chemtrails to the
air-quality equation as well. When the aliens are spraying all
day it changes the weather and eventually falls to the
ground where most of our monitoring of air quality
instrumentation is. I dont know how many new homes
(2000-present) were built to use wood heat as the
only source of heat. I look around my area and there isnt
a new home with a chimney anywhere. It would be hard
to estimate how many are burning wood for heat within
a 10 mile radius of me but I would say maybe a 1000.
Pretty sure everybody has got the memo on burnbans
and bottom line is have some dry firewood on hand
and keep that fire going like your were feeding a
steam engine pulling a long freight over Sherman Hill.
Calvin said
8:47 AM, 12/27/13
I look around my area and there isnt a new home with a chimney anywhere. It would be hard to estimate how many are burning wood for heat within a 10 mile radius of me but I would say maybe a 1000.
Simply perusing a listing by home of electric use would sniff em out.
Those all electric homes are using beau coups more electricity than the wood burners.
Oil and gas would be showing slightly more electric use than wood burners cause oil and gas furnaces rely on electricity to operate.
The electric co sends me a letter every month to tell me how I'm doing. In the spring/summer/fall I use much less power in than my neighbors.
They pat me on the back and tell me what a good job of being conservative. (Well, A single person and Im gone half the time just to start out with...............2 loads of wash)
In the winter, I seem to burn more than my neighbors, I'm hearing that I.m a bad boy cause my neighbors save so much more than me. Why do I use so much electricity in the winter??
(Well, I have an all electric home. Its set on 72 degrees and stays there year round. The neighbors have gas or kerosene heaters, and a few have wood stoves. duh..wonder how much they are actually saving...bet their gas bill oil bill is more than my electric bill. But the power company don't see that. I send them a letter, stuffed all their propaganda in and envelope and sent it back to them with a note. I said check and see how much more they are paying extra for their brand of heat. They haven't called me back, not like I'm surprised or nothing...But, I bet Jan will roll around and I'll get that same brain dead letter about how I'm wasting electricity and the neighbors are saving it)
Snippy said
11:23 AM, 12/27/13
Snippy said
11:25 AM, 12/27/13
Snippy said
11:25 AM, 12/27/13
Snippy said
11:27 AM, 12/27/13
Snippy said
11:29 AM, 12/27/13
Snippylvania...
Snippy said
6:02 PM, 12/27/13
Snippy said
6:03 PM, 12/27/13
Snippy said
6:04 PM, 12/27/13
Meanwhile Snippy sneaks another burn.....
The Krink said
1:30 AM, 12/28/13
Wow Snippy you had me going there for a few minutes. Burning wood is not free for winter heating. Some may have a vast expanse of property where there can havest their own wood, fall trees, buck it up, haul it home, then split it and pile it. Where I have been very lucky to have old "woodman" that has taken care of me for the last 20 years. Still I fork out $400 bucks in late August or September for my wood supply for winter. It averages out to be about $65 worth of wood burnt a month on top of my electrical bill so I'm not so sure I'm saving a whole lot in the end. But I can tell you when you need to get warm quickly, backing your buns up next to a very warm woodstove is the trick.
-- Edited by The Krink on Saturday 28th of December 2013 01:36:59 AM
Troll said
7:34 AM, 12/28/13
Smoke & Mirrors
Thunderwagon5000 said
9:50 AM, 12/30/13
I have electric baseboard heat which is nice until an ice storm knocks the power out.
Wish I had a backup wood heater but once you install it one needs to burn a tremendous amount
of wood to even come close to an offset of the increased fire insurance premiums. Still thinkin about it.
Well its certainly cold enough in SF at night to have
a fire not being related to any Christmas Time tradition.
Temps in the SF-Bay area in the low 40's at night
which means you need to build a fire and keep it
going for about 5-6 hrs a day to keep warm.
Noticed as I read the article those that burn wood as
their only source of heat were still allowed to burn
which is where WA is whenever the Burn Bans/Stagnet
still air/fog. I guess its good to see that even in San
Francisco California people are and have been burning
wood and continue to do so. Im sure these wood burning
persons/households in CA know all about burning wood
that dont make much smoke. Sounds easy enough....
The GPNW all of December has been weird weather on
the very cold side, the amount of days with no wind at all,
some very sneaky drenching rains. Xmas weather in the
GPNW is foggy and Thurday then rain on Friday. I'm
still burning wood as my main source of heat because
it was "what" came with the place when I bought it.
I feel added stress when the burn bans are in effect.
I know how to keep a fire going where there is nothing
from the chimney. Isnt that the sign of a good running
steam engine in yesteryears?
Bay Area Spare The Air Alert On Christmas Eve, Wood Burning Banned
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/12/23/bay-area-spare-the-air-alert-on-christmas-eve-wood-burning-banned/
So now the burn ban has taken away a yule-tide favorite of having
a roaring fire to accentuate the rich/elite ritual/traditional lifestyle
at Christmas time. Well things are different today. The key to
celebrating or just keeping warm during the Christmas week cold
weather is to have "dry firewood". I have fireplace experience growing
up. We had a glass-door enclosure on the front and what was called
a"Heatalator" device built into the fireplace which recycle the heat
added extra heat. Well after all my experiences with wood for heat
to date...number one is find a great woodstove and after that its
who you get your wood from. Some of you might enjoy going after
your years supply of firewood, sawing it up and loading your
pick-up truck to where it looks funny. Yeah...I'm not that type
but my woodguy is 77 says he's being doing this for 70 years.
So I'm going with the woodguy for next few years.
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/12/24/wood-burning-banned-as-christmas-day-spare-the-air-alert-issued/
-- Edited by The Krink on Thursday 26th of December 2013 01:58:40 AM
Great news. I burned my way through one everyone so far so
I must not be making much smoke. I go out an look at the
chimney stack a couple times a night just to make sure there
is "no smoke". I keep the fire hot and active until bedtime and
the last stick of wood goes in with no adjustment of the
damper. If you "turn down the fire" means its not getting the
proper amount of air to burn without causing a lot of smoke.
So you dont want to do that. Burn it hot the whole time and
your house will be warm+ at bedtime. The fire goes out just
before dawn and all the people just getting up and going
to work on foot or bike wont be breathing any of my
woodstove smoke...just the regular automobile/diesel
trucks/buses emmisions. Then you can add chemtrails to the
air-quality equation as well. When the aliens are spraying all
day it changes the weather and eventually falls to the
ground where most of our monitoring of air quality
instrumentation is. I dont know how many new homes
(2000-present) were built to use wood heat as the
only source of heat. I look around my area and there isnt
a new home with a chimney anywhere. It would be hard
to estimate how many are burning wood for heat within
a 10 mile radius of me but I would say maybe a 1000.
Pretty sure everybody has got the memo on burnbans
and bottom line is have some dry firewood on hand
and keep that fire going like your were feeding a
steam engine pulling a long freight over Sherman Hill.
Simply perusing a listing by home of electric use would sniff em out.
Those all electric homes are using beau coups more electricity than the wood burners.
Oil and gas would be showing slightly more electric use than wood burners cause oil and gas furnaces rely on electricity to operate.
The electric co sends me a letter every month to tell me how I'm doing. In the spring/summer/fall I use much less power in than my neighbors.
They pat me on the back and tell me what a good job of being conservative. (Well, A single person and Im gone half the time just to start out with...............2 loads of wash)
In the winter, I seem to burn more than my neighbors, I'm hearing that I.m a bad boy cause my neighbors save so much more than me. Why do I use so much electricity in the winter??
(Well, I have an all electric home. Its set on 72 degrees and stays there year round. The neighbors have gas or kerosene heaters, and a few have wood stoves. duh..wonder how much they are actually saving...bet their gas bill oil bill is more than my electric bill. But the power company don't see that. I send them a letter, stuffed all their propaganda in and envelope and sent it back to them with a note. I said check and see how much more they are paying extra for their brand of heat. They haven't called me back, not like I'm surprised or nothing...But, I bet Jan will roll around and I'll get that same brain dead letter about how I'm wasting electricity and the neighbors are saving it)
Snippylvania...
Wow Snippy you had me going there for a few minutes. Burning wood is
not free for winter heating. Some may have a vast expanse of property
where there can havest their own wood, fall trees, buck it up, haul it home,
then split it and pile it. Where I have been very lucky to have old "woodman"
that has taken care of me for the last 20 years. Still I fork out $400 bucks
in late August or September for my wood supply for winter. It averages
out to be about $65 worth of wood burnt a month on top of my electrical bill so
I'm not so sure I'm saving a whole lot in the end. But I can tell you when you
need to get warm quickly, backing your buns up next to a very warm
woodstove is the trick.
-- Edited by The Krink on Saturday 28th of December 2013 01:36:59 AM
Smoke & Mirrors
I have electric baseboard heat which is nice until an ice storm knocks the power out.
Wish I had a backup wood heater but once you install it one needs to burn a tremendous amount
of wood to even come close to an offset of the increased fire insurance premiums. Still thinkin about it.