And they're a unionized ourfit as well. They brewed a lager...and maybe a "Light(er) brew, and maybe an ice-type. They weren't the worst though...
The Krink said
8:01 AM, 09/01/13
If every member of the BJ decided to boycott some
product it wouldn't cause so much as a ripple. Boycotting
something...I just dont "buy" some products...same result.
Its hard to say how qualified those are to start a "bandwagon"
movement against products that have a 20 year headstart
on killing you. Dont ever eat a commercially grown strawberry
from California.
Troll said
8:46 AM, 09/01/13
Freddie Krueger wrote:
Troll will have to find a micro brewery beer that he will like here in Philly.
Great Lakes Brewing from Cleveland is now available in Philadelphia.
And they're a unionized ourfit as well. They brewed a lager...and maybe a "Light(er) brew, and maybe an ice-type. They weren't the worst though...
Awful shit.......you can get a 30 pack of cream ale for under $15.
Thunderwagon5000 said
2:16 PM, 09/01/13
The Krink wrote:
If every member of the BJ decided to boycott some product it wouldn't cause so much as a ripple. Boycotting something...I just dont "buy" some products...same result. Its hard to say how qualified those are to start a "bandwagon" movement against products that have a 20 year headstart on killing you. Dont ever eat a commercially grown strawberry from California.
Agreed. But, if you are forced to do it in a social situation by a good lookin cougar that's made a picture perfect home made desert to please you, the don't wash it down with Labatt's, Coors, or Yeungling.
Uke said
2:26 PM, 09/01/13
Boycott Yuengling. Support Troll. BurningJournaldotcom will shut those bastards down! No matter what Krink says!
The Krink said
1:22 AM, 09/02/13
Thunderwagon5000 wrote:
The Krink wrote:
If every member of the BJ decided to boycott some product it wouldn't cause so much as a ripple. Boycotting something...I just dont "buy" some products...same result. Its hard to say how qualified those are to start a "bandwagon" movement against products that have a 20 year headstart on killing you. Dont ever eat a commercially grown strawberry from California.
Agreed. But, if you are forced to do it in a social situation by a good lookin cougar that's made a picture perfect home made desert to please you, the don't wash it down with Labatt's, Coors, or Yeungling.
TW...I watched this show a couple days ago on the CBC TV station. You can
watch it right now. "Doc Zone" is short for "documentary zone". I've been
very curious about the host of the show one Ann-Marie MacDonald. She
has a visable presence of a "very serious woman". Like she is some
all knowing godess. Actually she is a Scorpio (Oct 29 1958) and has 5-
planets in Scorpio so she has what it takes to be a "super-sluthe" in
figuring out stuff. I like the show each week as they uncover more
things each week that is further conformation on some pending
issues. This show...it shows the how the California Strawberries
-- Edited by The Krink on Monday 2nd of September 2013 01:23:33 AM
The Krink said
8:50 AM, 09/02/13
Kinda figured this episode may take a while to be availabe again.
Maybe it will be repeated some day but dont bet on it. I grow
strawberries organically with just dirt and water.
Thunderwagon5000 said
3:41 PM, 09/02/13
The Krink wrote:
Kinda figured this episode may take a while to be availabe again. Maybe it will be repeated some day but dont bet on it. I grow strawberries organically with just dirt and water.
Thank you Mr. Krink. Sure I'll be able to catch it from the archives streaming service available North of the 49th . One of the more under utilized benefits available to us slobs paying copious amounts of federal taxes ($34 per citizen) that go to running the CBC.
Thanks Cy! Just what's needed! Now back ta topic... Troll's beer (Yuengling) boycott!
And since today (Monday, Sept. 2nd. IS Labor Day!) if yer gonna drink beer, make it a union brewed brand! Troll and every other member of a unionized workforce will thank ya!
Uke said
4:38 PM, 09/02/13
The rest of the story:
Why Dick Yuengling wants PA to be a right to work state
The CEOs speech ranged in topics, from Tom Corbett (a great man) to liquor privatization (hes for it) to whether hed ever sell the company, like Budweiser did (Nobodys going to offer me a billion dollars for it, and if they [did], I wouldnt take it).
But his support of right-to-work, a law thats never gotten any traction in the Pennsylvania legislature, despite its proponents ability to make lots of noise, was perhaps the biggest takeaway from the speech.
Right-to-Work is the slick name given to a series of laws that give workers who receive union benefits the option of whether or not to join said union with which their career is affiliated. Such laws most recently passed in Michigan (the 24th state to do so), during the 2012 post-election lame duck session, and were met with protests and anger around the country.
And like many governors elected in 2010, Gov. Corbett has made it his mission over the last two years to drive union workers crazy, loosening their hold on public sector jobs.
Earlier this year, a series of RTW laws, which were all-the-more slickly named the Pennsylvania Open Workforce Initiative, were introduced and supported by the governor (who also noted Pennsylvania lacks the will to pass them). In their fight for right to work, proponents often cite compulsory unionism, or, the idea that one must join a union to hold a certain job, in addition to the oft-cited criticism that union bosses make a lot of money.
A group called Pennsylvanians for Right-to-Work is one side in support of recent legislationobviously. Theyve been organizing and advocating against unionism since all the way back in 1962. And their communications and legislative director, Matthew Wagner, says momentum is now at a point of no return.
There was no sponsor of Right-to-Work legislation who was defeated during the [last] election cycle, he gives us as evidence of some of that momentum. Union bosses live by intimidation and bullying and those tactics, and union members have to support that to hold a job, and thats part of the problem with compulsory unionism, is the way its set up.
This, despite the fact that Corbett has said the state Legislature lacks the will to enact RTW laws.
Compulsory union membership gives a union more membership and clout when negotiating contracts, and puts more money in the union heads pockets, since union members pay dues. Union advocates claim this is necessary to help blue-collar and other workers keep their clout and wages.
[Right-to-Work means] their bargaining power is shrunk and, therefore, so is their ability to negotiate wages and benefits and all the things that help union members and the other workers, even if theyre not in a union, notes Jessica Burgan, communications director at union-backed community organizing group Fight for Philly.
Burgan is a member of a coalition thats set to fight against this for as long as it takes. Her sentiments are shared with the larger union presence in the state.
Liz McElroy, Secretary-Treasurer of the Philadelphia AFL-CIO, agrees, and takes Burgans sentiments a bit farther. [RTW is] nothing more than an attack on workers and an attack on unions, she says. It doesnt create more jobs.
McElroy cites numerous statistics found on the AFL-CIOs main site as evidence, including many of which which claim so-called union states offer a better quality of life to their inhabitants.
So, Yuengling says right-to-work creates jobs. Union proponents say it doesnt. Whos right?
The answer may come from a 2007 Hofstra University study. It found that RTW laws do help boost the raw number of businesses in a state (score one for Yuengling) but numeric monetary gains mostly go to owners while wages go down (score one for the union advocatesand Yuengling?) A 2011 Economic Policy Institute study found right-to-work states have lower wages on the whole.
Right-to-work may also have the tendency to turn employees who receive union benefits into freeloaders by not having to pay dues.
According to the Washington Post: A 1998 survey of the econometric literature by William J. Moore found that right-to-work laws lead to more free-riding behavior among employees. That, in turn, leads to a decline in unionization drives, in organizing successes, and ultimately in overall union density. Recently, Idaho and Oklahoma saw their union densities drop after adopting right-to-work laws in the early 2000s.
Yuengling, whose family has been hammering Americans livers since 1829, has also campaigned for Republicans in the past and was recently honored in the State Legislature via a resolution with 85 co-sponsors, which noted, Thanks to the companys tremendous success, it can now also claim the title of Americas largest domestically owned and operated brewery.
And given Yuenglings penchant for Republican policies and his estimated $1.3 billion fortune, its no wonder hes in favor of right-to-work laws.
Thunderwagon5000 said
5:36 PM, 09/02/13
I M boycotting everything today. Including Timmy Ho's . Got the groceries yesterday and plenty oph cajun blackened pickerel left over phrum supper @ the lake yesterday. Phukk'em . And. Happy Laborer's Day ! Eh ?
+1 ... for walking the walk
Genesee was an East Coast beer...http://www.geneseebeer.com/Genesee
And they're a unionized ourfit as well. They brewed a lager...and maybe a "Light(er) brew, and maybe an ice-type. They weren't the worst though...
product it wouldn't cause so much as a ripple. Boycotting
something...I just dont "buy" some products...same result.
Its hard to say how qualified those are to start a "bandwagon"
movement against products that have a 20 year headstart
on killing you. Dont ever eat a commercially grown strawberry
from California.
Great Lakes Brewing from Cleveland is now available in Philadelphia.
http://greatbrewers.com/list/48172
Awful shit.......you can get a 30 pack of cream ale for under $15.
Agreed. But, if you are forced to do it in a social situation by a good lookin cougar that's made a picture perfect home made desert to please you, the don't wash it down with Labatt's, Coors, or Yeungling.
TW...I watched this show a couple days ago on the CBC TV station. You can
watch it right now. "Doc Zone" is short for "documentary zone". I've been
very curious about the host of the show one Ann-Marie MacDonald. She
has a visable presence of a "very serious woman". Like she is some
all knowing godess. Actually she is a Scorpio (Oct 29 1958) and has 5-
planets in Scorpio so she has what it takes to be a "super-sluthe" in
figuring out stuff. I like the show each week as they uncover more
things each week that is further conformation on some pending
issues. This show...it shows the how the California Strawberries
are grown and in what.
http://www.cbc.ca/doczone/episode/the-new-green-giants.html
-- Edited by The Krink on Monday 2nd of September 2013 01:23:33 AM
Maybe it will be repeated some day but dont bet on it. I grow
strawberries organically with just dirt and water.
Thank you Mr. Krink. Sure I'll be able to catch it from the archives streaming service available North of the 49th . One of the more under utilized benefits available to us slobs paying copious amounts of federal taxes ($34 per citizen) that go to running the CBC.
There is this:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2012/05/17/152522900/the-secret-life-of-californias-world-class-strawberries
Thanks Cy! Just what's needed! Now back ta topic... Troll's beer (Yuengling) boycott!
And since today (Monday, Sept. 2nd. IS Labor Day!) if yer gonna drink beer, make it a union brewed brand! Troll and every other member of a unionized workforce will thank ya!
The rest of the story:
Why Dick Yuengling wants PA to be a right to work state
The CEOs speech ranged in topics, from Tom Corbett (a great man) to liquor privatization (hes for it) to whether hed ever sell the company, like Budweiser did (Nobodys going to offer me a billion dollars for it, and if they [did], I wouldnt take it).
But his support of right-to-work, a law thats never gotten any traction in the Pennsylvania legislature, despite its proponents ability to make lots of noise, was perhaps the biggest takeaway from the speech.
Right-to-Work is the slick name given to a series of laws that give workers who receive union benefits the option of whether or not to join said union with which their career is affiliated. Such laws most recently passed in Michigan (the 24th state to do so), during the 2012 post-election lame duck session, and were met with protests and anger around the country.
And like many governors elected in 2010, Gov. Corbett has made it his mission over the last two years to drive union workers crazy, loosening their hold on public sector jobs.
Earlier this year, a series of RTW laws, which were all-the-more slickly named the Pennsylvania Open Workforce Initiative, were introduced and supported by the governor (who also noted Pennsylvania lacks the will to pass them). In their fight for right to work, proponents often cite compulsory unionism, or, the idea that one must join a union to hold a certain job, in addition to the oft-cited criticism that union bosses make a lot of money.
A group called Pennsylvanians for Right-to-Work is one side in support of recent legislationobviously. Theyve been organizing and advocating against unionism since all the way back in 1962. And their communications and legislative director, Matthew Wagner, says momentum is now at a point of no return.
There was no sponsor of Right-to-Work legislation who was defeated during the [last] election cycle, he gives us as evidence of some of that momentum. Union bosses live by intimidation and bullying and those tactics, and union members have to support that to hold a job, and thats part of the problem with compulsory unionism, is the way its set up.
This, despite the fact that Corbett has said the state Legislature lacks the will to enact RTW laws.
Compulsory union membership gives a union more membership and clout when negotiating contracts, and puts more money in the union heads pockets, since union members pay dues. Union advocates claim this is necessary to help blue-collar and other workers keep their clout and wages.
[Right-to-Work means] their bargaining power is shrunk and, therefore, so is their ability to negotiate wages and benefits and all the things that help union members and the other workers, even if theyre not in a union, notes Jessica Burgan, communications director at union-backed community organizing group Fight for Philly.
Burgan is a member of a coalition thats set to fight against this for as long as it takes. Her sentiments are shared with the larger union presence in the state.
Liz McElroy, Secretary-Treasurer of the Philadelphia AFL-CIO, agrees, and takes Burgans sentiments a bit farther. [RTW is] nothing more than an attack on workers and an attack on unions, she says. It doesnt create more jobs.
McElroy cites numerous statistics found on the AFL-CIOs main site as evidence, including many of which which claim so-called union states offer a better quality of life to their inhabitants.
So, Yuengling says right-to-work creates jobs. Union proponents say it doesnt. Whos right?
The answer may come from a 2007 Hofstra University study. It found that RTW laws do help boost the raw number of businesses in a state (score one for Yuengling) but numeric monetary gains mostly go to owners while wages go down (score one for the union advocatesand Yuengling?) A 2011 Economic Policy Institute study found right-to-work states have lower wages on the whole.
Right-to-work may also have the tendency to turn employees who receive union benefits into freeloaders by not having to pay dues.
According to the Washington Post: A 1998 survey of the econometric literature by William J. Moore found that right-to-work laws lead to more free-riding behavior among employees. That, in turn, leads to a decline in unionization drives, in organizing successes, and ultimately in overall union density. Recently, Idaho and Oklahoma saw their union densities drop after adopting right-to-work laws in the early 2000s.
Yuengling, whose family has been hammering Americans livers since 1829, has also campaigned for Republicans in the past and was recently honored in the State Legislature via a resolution with 85 co-sponsors, which noted, Thanks to the companys tremendous success, it can now also claim the title of Americas largest domestically owned and operated brewery.
And given Yuenglings penchant for Republican policies and his estimated $1.3 billion fortune, its no wonder hes in favor of right-to-work laws.
I M boycotting everything today. Including Timmy Ho's . Got the groceries yesterday and plenty oph cajun blackened pickerel left over phrum supper @ the lake yesterday. Phukk'em . And. Happy Laborer's Day ! Eh ?