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Date: 10/16/09 09:07
Nickel Plate Road - Merger 1964
Author: Eddie-Durnwald

October 16, 1964, 45 years ago

The NKP Nickel Plate Road, Wabash,
ACY - Akron Canton and Youngstown and
P&WV - Pittsburgh and West Virginia
merge into the N&W, Norfolk and Western.

Eddie Durnwald
Fostoria, Ohio

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And with that, The Route of High Speed Freight Service disappeared.
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-- Edited by Cy Valley on Saturday 17th of October 2009 11:27:54 PM

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Cy Valley wrote:

And with that, The Route of High Speed Freight Service disappeared.



What you talkin bout Willis?
Western Maryland didn't get swallowed by CSX till 1989..

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Guess the insurance companies don't like ta hear "High Speed" or "Fast Freight".  

 



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And with that, The Route of High Speed Freight Service disappeared.

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-- Edited by Cy Valley on Saturday 17th of October 2009 11:27:54 PM

I was still shitting in my diapers when that went down. Their line ran through my hometown west of Cleveland. I only remember it as the N&W.

 



-- Edited by Troll on Sunday 18th of October 2009 09:29:26 AM

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I never completely understood why the NKP'ers hated the N&W as bad as they did. Then, 6/1/82 happened and my understanding grew.

But its interesting that the PRR men on the old Sandusky branch that the N&W acquired to connect with the NKP and the Wabash didn't hate the N&W.  They'd spent a lifetime hauling coal to Sandusky in the summer and most of them being furloughed or forced out of town in the winter.  The N&W was a blessing to them, year round work, a rebuilt railroad that'd been cinder ballast and 35 MPH.  Now, the old Wabash guys I knew, huh, I don't know where to start with them.

-- Edited by Cy Valley on Sunday 18th of October 2009 11:33:31 AM

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Diapers? Admit it Troll, you only had one pair.

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Troll wrote:

I was still shitting in my diapers when that went down.




Snippy didn't know they merged yesterday.



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Yeah...you got to be sorta old to recall that merger. It took
me many years after to realize it happened. As a teenage
railfan I saw Wabash, Nickel Plate, ACY, and P&WV rolling stock
rolling through Bellingham into the 70's. No internet back then.
You see a Wabash boxcar and you think Wabash is still a railroad.
I wrote the AAR back in 1966 for a packet of free shit, i.e. schedules
and crap and they sent me a May 1965 copy of the "Official Guide
of the Railways". Wow! What a goldmine of railroad info. I studied that
fucker day and night for months. It was then I saw no mention of the
Wabash, NKP, ACY, P&WV. Think I read about it in Trains Magazine
in the late 60's about what happened. Remember Dizzy Dean singing
the Wabash Cannonball song during TV broadcasted Baseball Games
during the 60's. I'm sorry but I only got a "reflection" from these
fallen flag railways. Sure all the stories are true.

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In a bar in a town where picnic tables are known to be companions, the Wabash Cannonball was on the jukebox and it was alleged that railroaders were known to frequent such establishments, especially this establishment, convenient to AFHT lodging. Anyway, said railroaders who had worked for that company and came into that town via an Interdivisional Pool would drink themselves into inebriation and play that song over and over again on that jukebox.

That's what I heard, anyway.

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I just found out about the merger 5 minutes ago.

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Everything you ever wanted to know about the Wabash Railroad
is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_Railroad

Everything you ever wanted to know about the Nickel Plate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_Plate

Map of the Nickel Plate: http://nkprr.railfan.net/areamap.html

Here's something on the ACY: http://www.acyhs.org/history.html

P&WV system map: http://www.railsandtrails.com/Maps/P&WV/index.html

P&WV history: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_and_West_Virginia_Railway

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I hesitate to search this out on the internet because it's sure
to cause confusion but there was a railway called the "Norfolk
Southern" that ran between Norfolk and Charlotte listed in the
October 1966 Official Guide of the Railways. I probably can answer
my own question but did it become part of the modern day NS?

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yes.
They spent over a million dollars ~1981 to come up with the current name after NORFOLK and Western and SOUTHERN merged.

http://www.norfolksouthernhs.org/

Home of about the world's longest timber railroad trestle at 5.25 miles. Slightly longer than Lake Ponchatrain.




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Yeah, I once saw a list of some of the proposed names, some of them made about as much sense and sounded as railroad-like as CSX, which I always thought sucks for a name. Anyway, Southern took over Norfolk Southern back when and one of the things they just had to do was convert their low-nosed locos into high-nosed locos. I always wondered, why was that so necessary?

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