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NS plan to run trains through park angers W.Va. officials

(The following story by Billy Wolfe appeared on the Daily Mail website on November 20, 2009.)

CHARLESTON, W.Va. Kanawha County parks officials are bristling at a plan by a short-line railroad company to reactivate two local rail lines, including one that runs right through part of Coonskin Park.

Both lines are owned by Norfolk Southern Railway and have sat unused for several decades.

The federal Surface Transportation Board recently gave its approval for Charleston, Blue Creek and Sanderson Railway Co. to lease portions of the line running through Coonskin from Norfolk Southern. As a short-line Class III noncarrier, Charleston, Blue Creek and Sanderson is exempt from a bevy of federal regulations regarding the railroad industry.

One of the lines runs from Charleston to Morris Fork, while the other runs from a point near Blue Creek to a point outside of Falling Rock. In total, the two segments comprise about 30.6 miles of rail line.

Jeff Hutchinson, executive director of the county parks department, said Wednesday he is not pleased with the news. The issue came up during a meeting of the parks board.

Hutchinson said the deal could have "serious ramifications" for the park and for property owners whose homes sit near the rail line.

A portion of the line runs right in front of the county Parks and Recreation Commission administration offices and the Coonskin Clubhouse, and it's right next to the Alex Schoenbaum Soccer Stadium and Amphitheater located at the park.

Hutchinson said at Wednesday's meeting he hopes that, if the line is reactivated, it will not disturb peace at the park. He said his preference would be that trains would only run during hours of low park patronage.

Calls to Washington, D.C. attorney Kelvin J. Dowd, who is representing Charleston, Blue Creek and Sanderson, were not immediately returned Wednesday. Calls to other company officials also were not returned.

Hutchinson said he believes the company will be transporting coal from a nearby mine, and he said at this point there might be little anyone can do to stop the line from being reactivated.

Norfolk Southern still owns the line, as well as the rights-of-way around it.

Although the Surface Transportation Board already has signed off on the exemption, there is still limited time to file a petition with the board.

According to the filing, "Petitions to revoke the exemption ... may be filed at any time. The filing of a petition to revoke will not automatically stay the transaction. Petitions for stay must be filed no later than Nov. 20, 2009."

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CHARLESTON, W.Va. Kanawha County parks officials are bristling at a plan by a short-line railroad company to reactivate two local rail lines, including one that runs right through part of Coonskin Park.


The federal Surface Transportation Board recently gave its approval for Charleston, Blue Creek and Sanderson Railway Co. to lease portions of the line running through Coonskin from Norfolk Southern. As a short-line Class III noncarrier, Charleston, Blue Creek and Sanderson is exempt from a bevy of federal regulations regarding the railroad industry.


A portion of the line runs right in front of the county Parks and Recreation Commission administration offices and the Coonskin Clubhouse, and it's right next to the Alex Schoenbaum Soccer Stadium and Amphitheater located at the park.



Guess the poor fellers over at TardLimits wont be reading this story....

 



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NIMBY's!!!!!!!!!!  One has to wonder, was it a park when the line was active before, or did the park come later.

-- Edited by Cy Valley on Friday 20th of November 2009 10:00:28 AM

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I've been to that park. What use to be tracks run along the edge of it. People will bitch about anything.

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From a Yahoo Group:



I was looking through the recent STB (Surface Transportation Board) filings this
morning when I came across one which I found particularly interesting...Virginia
Energy in Bristol (Va) has filed a notice of exemption to lease and operate NS's
(ex-Conrail, nee-B&O and NYC) Hitop Running track from Charleston to Sanderson,
along with the former B&O trackage between Falling Rock and Blue Creek, in the
name of the 'Charleston, Blue Creek & Sanderson Railway Company'...

The actual line segments involved are...

1) Milepost TP 1.00 at Charleston to MP TP-26.91 at Morris Fork.

2) former B&O MP 97.2 near Falling Rock and MP 100.9 near Blue Creek

These lines have been out of service since 1991 and will require significant
rehabilitation (the last customers to use this trackage were Clendennin Lumber
and Halliburton, both at Blue Creek).

Virginia Energy is the same company that currently operates the single car
loader on NS's Upper Elk Creek Spur (off the Buchanan Branch between Ward and
Burke, Va), and is owned by James O. Bunn of Grundy, Va., who also own several
other coal companies in the region, including Northland Resources, Eaglehawk
Carbon Inc. and Mate Creek Energy.

Ron


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Better look...

-- Edited by Calvin on Friday 20th of November 2009 01:52:43 PM

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http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=charleston,+wv&sll=40.358276,-77.01004&sspn=2.163953,3.510132&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Charleston,+Kanawha,+West+Virginia&ll=38.396308,-81.581634&spn=0.001095,0.002736&t=k&z=19&layer=c&cbll=38.396308,-81.581634&panoid=Z2AER70hRBzYG5XI18-h4Q&cbp=12,192.77,,0,13.47


My oh My.... Looks like the parking lots are on one side of the tracks, and the Ampitheatre and Soccer fields are on the other. Same way with the Tennis courts.
Up river theres gonna be more shit. Looks like some people built some pretty hoidy toidy homes up close to the old ROW. 

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Hoidy toidy homes? In West (by gawd) Virginia? Go figure.

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Snippy's Local Chairman up that way lives in a "gated" community. And he don't mean CSX gates, either.

Snippy makes a quickie track chart, thanks CLaVlin! Snippy needed that!


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Snippy wrote:

What used to be run by us/CR will be run by a non-union unknown entity.




Whoever said you're seniority only gets smaller wasn't lying.

 



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If you follow the line on Google Maps, you can see they have their work cut out for them.

For Example, the "junction":



-- Edited by Snippy on Friday 20th of November 2009 05:16:41 PM

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Not to mention the crossings have been asphalted over.  Looks like the people of WV will be paying for this rehab.

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Snippy wrote:

What used to be run by us/CR will be run by a non-union unknown entity.




Whoever said you're seniority only gets smaller wasn't lying.

 

 



I used to fire for a guy in the old home terminal that was shrinking up who said he hated to go on vacation because every time he did, there'd be something else abolished when he came back.  

Actually, Pipes, our seniority got a lot bigger in 1999, and your area did, too, but proportionally, ours got a WHOLE LOT BIGGER.

 



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