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We had a couple parked in the 'dead line' at E'port diesel, just after the 'flip' that created Conrail. They were freighters...black, PC across the nose, stencilled over, and a big CR applied.

Never saw one run. They sat awaiting the scrappers ta cut 'em apart. The one noticeable...most noticeable thing? Huge, spoked drivers...and little 'pony' wheels at either end, on two-axle trucks.

Very weird animals! Indeed!



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My first real visit to a "East Coast" railroad town was Harrisburg Pa.

Most of my vacations in the 1980's-90's were to locations where I

could catch 3 nights of sprintcar racing and railfan during the day.

Harrisburg Pa. is just such a place where the best of both worlds

collide. Have to say a "just out of curiosity" visit to the AMTK Station

in Harrisburg and I got to see a locomotive I've only seen in

pictures before in Trains Magazine. A real (dead) GG1 sitting under the

cover of the Harrisburg depot. I couldnt contain myself. A way tuu cool

discovery. I actually "touched" the GG1 which means its now been

assimulated into my memory banks

 



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Noisy. Very limited visibility. Not sure, but think they always had a fireman.

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In my readings learning about this loco, it was the first and the
last GG1. The yellow striping was the "cat whiskers" paint
scheme.

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I know there's ONE of the few in Milwaukee livery downtown Deer Lodge, Montana. The few 'Joes Milwaukee had then, were maintained, as were all the other 'motors' Milwaukee had, at Deer Lodge Roundhouse.

More on the Little Joes... http://www.powellcountymontana.com/little_joe.html



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Caught a glimpse of one way back when, while on a trip enroute to New York City, this would have been in the spring of 1971 (yeah, you can say it, Cy is old). It was running at what appeared to me to be full tilt, going under an underpass we were passing over. Of course, I'd never seen one before, the only other electrified operation I'd ever seen was the North Shore (Chicago, North Shore, and Milwaukee) all through the summer of 1962 (yeah, you can say it again).

I believe Clavalin knows something about the GG-1's, his neighbor or someone was a PRR HAWG who ran them. Perhaps he'll show up later and fill us all in.

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Yeah Cy, so am I... But Speakin' of the South Shore, and electrics... Didn't they buy a couple "Little Joes" from the Milwaukee, ta pull freight under pre-existing catenary?

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Well now, gotta say it fuc... Thankee Troll! Don't know where ya found that, but it was A-One in my book! The Pennsy set the standard for everybody back then! The 1930a, '40s, 50s... Right on up till the Penn Central disaster. And Conrail!

Pennsylvania Railroad was the best Class-I in North America... I love the old films from the 1950s...



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Uke wrote:

Yeah Cy, so am I... But Speakin' of the South Shore, and electrics... Didn't they buy a couple "Little Joes" from the Milwaukee, ta pull freight under pre-existing catenary?


 No.  GE built 20 for Mother Russia but Truman put a ban on the sale of strategic materials.  The Milwaukee tested one and could have bought all 20 but fiddle-fucked around so much that by the time they agreed to buy them GE sold 3 to the South Shore and 5 to Brazil.  The South Shore had to reconfigure them to run at standard gauge and at 1500 volts D.C. IIRC.



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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4SuiSURDyQ

 

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My Little league coach was the Boss on the local switcher in town.

I went out and rode around with those guys after school sometimes.

To look at it now, you'd wonder how they could switch cars for 6 or 7 hours.

The regular hawg lived in the neighboring town, and had at one time worked the regular passenger

trains, Harrisburg to New York. He could tell the stories. He ran steam powered passenger trains back branches off the old CVRR

that didnt even exist anymore in the early 70's Penn Central.

Get to NY 1 min late and they would be waiting on the platform for ya.

He'd work 16 days a month and get paid for 32. 

He loved the GG1's.

He said you couldn't couple enough cars behind 2 of them to stop them. Getting the power from the cantenary was almost

limitless. It was going to move, or break a knuckle(s).

He drew railroad retirement for 22 years, he said he drew a lot more out than he paid in, but he knew guys who never drew any

so he'd call it even.

He gave me his operating book for the GG1. It has all the diagrams of electrical, air brakes, etc. It covers the P5, P5A, and the GG1.

Inside the front page its stamped "Property of the Pennsylvania RR and loaned to:--------------------"

If youd have stopped in Altoona, they have a GG1 you could go inside. It is in sore need of paint, and some stuff has been removed so it dosent get stolen.

   



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Probably gauges. Brass gauges. And handles, and hardware made of brass. And perhaps heavy copper wires, and bus bars...

I'd imagine the GG-1 was one hell of a smooth runner! As long as your current remained steady, they'd put an honest 5000+ ponies through the big 57" drivers ta the rails...and pull more'n anything similar!

Watch Troll's clips again! "You're a locomotive...a GG-1!"

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I think it's about 2:48 in part 2 that the BOT gives about the most limp-wristed highball I've ever seen. Oh, and the PRR film planting all that subliminal engineman in the narration.  I know, picky, picky, picky.



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Well, if Ya'all wanna get picky, most all PRR men called the GG1's a MOTOR, not a locomotive.

If they wore a kromer clean kloth cap, it was a white one to show electric service.

Much like unplugging an electric drill, once you dropped the pantographs on a GG1, you were in coast mode.

Which actually was done at phase breaks, sorry for not including a long technical explination.

*Cy* its actually 0:48 in Part 2 for the highball simply done for the camera.

With a long train, the Hawg would never see such a hand signal, and besides, he would NOT move till he

 got 2 toots on the comm pipe.  



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Cy Valley wrote:

I think it's about 2:48 in part 2 that the BOT gives about the most limp-wristed highball I've ever seen. Oh, and the PRR film planting all that subliminal engineman in the narration.  I know, picky, picky, picky.


 Damn Cy... Why not just say it? Ya know ya want to...so do it! Just say the word: FAGGY...the most limp-wristed highball I've ever seen...

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