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I haven't gone through this for many years now. The
early version of the Seattle Mariners were chronic cellar
dwellars in the 70's-80's. The Mariner's for the last 15
years or so have been in the thick of things during the
pennant races and have been finishing up the season
with a winning record. This year is the worst in a long time.
Half the team on the field today has just been called from
AAA Tacoma. About the only reason for watching the M's
play now is to see if Ichiro can get 200 hits. Still, I prefer
to watch a Mariner loss on TV than anyother thing on the
dismal tube.

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I feel for you, Krink. The 2002 Brewers went 56-106 under the tag-team leadership of Davey Lopes and Jerry Royster, 41 games behind the division leading Cardinals. The offense was Richie Sexson and Jose Hernandez (175 combined RBI, 324 combined whiffs) and a cast of nobodies. Ace starter Ben Sheets went 11-16. The All-Star game was held in Miller Park that year and ended in a 7-7 tie.

We're doing better this year.


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Krink, were you a Pilots fan?

I saw a guy one time in a local store decked out in an entire Pilots uniform. I had to ask him about it, he told me he'd grown up in Idaho and became a baseball fan because of the one glorious Pilot season and had a special fondness for all things Pilot.


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Cy Valley wrote:

Krink, were you a Pilots fan?

I saw a guy one time in a local store decked out in an entire Pilots uniform. I had to ask him about it, he told me he'd grown up in Idaho and became a baseball fan because of the one glorious Pilot season and had a special fondness for all things Pilot.




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Yeah, I do say. And you know that I'm a long ways from Idaho.

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The first "magic number" has already appeared in the standings.

WestWLPctGB
 Los Angeles Angels (17)7950.612--
 Texas Rangers6367.48516.5
 Oakland Athletics5971.45420.5
 Seattle Mariners4882.36931.5


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Well the Seattle Pilots go back to 1969. I was a freshman
in high school. I don't remember listening to any games
on the radio and probably very few games ever ended up
on TV. My recollection of that one season is not much.
Guess my thought was they were going to be around for
a while and that I would have a chance to get to know
them better and "BOOM" they was gone. Most conversation
in these parts about the Pilots centers around the fact that
we did have a MLB franchise in 1969 and thats about it.
Expansion team rosters are hardly worth getting excited about
and the Seattle Pilots were no exception.

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So off to Milwaukee they went and became the Brewers, giving our good buddy Lake Tower something to cheer for. And eventually giving us Bud Selig, too. And a few colorful Jim Bouton stories about the Pilots in "Ball Four".big_pilots.jpg
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1969 Seattle Pilots Roster
The 1969 Seattle Pilots team roster seen on this page includes every player who appeared in a game during the 1969 season. It is a comprehensive team roster and player names are sorted by the fielding position where the most number of games were played during the regular season. Every player's name links to their career statistics.

Below the main roster you will find in the Fast Facts section: a 1969 Seattle Pilots Opening Day starters list, a 1969 Seattle Pilots salary list, a 1969 Seattle Pilots uniform number breakdown and a 1969 Seattle Pilots primary starters list. These team rosters are presented only when and where the data is available.

"Lamar Hunt and a Texas group also wanted to buy the team, but we had felt we had made the gentlemen's agreement with Bud Selig and the Milwaukee group that's what we were committed to." - Pilots co-owner Max Soriano


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1969 Seattle Pilots


1969 Seattle Pilots Official Logo

Complete Roster


RosterSchedule
# Pitchers Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
23 Jack Aker 6-02 190 Right Right 1940-07-13
32, 45 Dick Baney 6-00 185 Right Right 1946-11-01
13 Steve Barber 6-00 200 Left Left 1938-02-22
46 Dick Bates 6-00 190 Right Left 1945-10-07
39 Gary Bell 6-01 198 Right Right 1936-11-17
56 Jim Bouton 6-00 185 Right Right 1939-03-08
32 Gene Brabender 6-05˝ 225 Right Right 1941-08-16
27 Bucky Brandon 6-02 200 Right Right 1940-07-08
39 George Brunet 6-01 210 Left Right 1935-06-08
38, 55 Bill Edgerton 6-02 185 Left Left 1941-08-16
14 Miguel Fuentes 6-00 160 Right Right 1946-05-10
25 John Gelnar 6-01˝ 190 Right Right 1943-06-25
27 Bob Locker 6-03 200 Right Both 1938-03-15
42 Skip Lockwood 6-00 190 Right Right 1946-08-17
28 Mike Marshall 5-10 180 Right Right 1943-01-15
38 Bob Meyer 6-02 185 Left Right 1939-08-04
35 John Morris 6-01 198 Left Right 1941-08-23
43 John O'Donoghue 6-03 210 Left Right 1939-10-07
33 Marty Pattin 5-11 180 Right Right 1943-04-06
39 Garry Roggenburk 6-06 195 Left Right 1940-04-16
24 Diego Segui 6-00 190 Right Right 1937-08-17
40 Jerry Stephenson 6-02 185 Right Left 1943-10-06
23 Fred Talbot 6-02 195 Right Right 1941-06-28
45, 50 Gary Timberlake 6-02 205 Left Right 1948-08-09
41 Dooley Womack 6-00 170 Right Left 1939-08-25
# Catchers Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
10 Larry Haney 6-02 195 Right Right 1942-11-19
15 Jerry McNertney 6-01 195 Right Right 1936-08-07
17 Jim Pagliaroni 6-04 210 Right Right 1937-12-08
26, 57 Merritt Ranew 5-10 180 Right Left 1938-05-10
30 Freddie Velazquez 6-01 185 Right Right 1937-12-06
# Infielders Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
30 Ron Clark 5-10 175 Right Right 1943-01-14
10 John Donaldson 5-11 165 Right Left 1943-05-05
18 Gus Gil 5-10 180 Right Right 1939-04-19
34, 54 Greg Goossen 6-01˝ 210 Right Right 1945-12-14
21 Tommy Harper 5-10 168 Right Right 1940-10-14
11 John Kennedy 6-00 185 Right Right 1941-05-29
14 Gordy Lund 5-11 170 Right Right 1941-02-23
5 Don Mincher 6-03 213 Right Left 1938-06-24
1 Ray Oyler 5-11 165 Right Right 1938-08-04
9 Rich Rollins 5-10 185 Right Right 1938-04-16
22 Fred Stanley 5-10 167 Right Right 1947-08-13
# Outfielders Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
20 Wayne Comer 5-10 175 Right Right 1944-02-03
12 Tommy Davis 6-02 205 Right Right 1939-03-21
14 Jim Gosger 5-11 185 Left Left 1942-11-06
8 Mike Hegan 6-01 190 Left Left 1942-07-21
36 Steve Hovley 5-10 188 Left Left 1944-12-18
16 Dick Simpson 6-04 176 Right Right 1943-07-28
28 Sandy Valdespino 5-08 170 Left Left 1939-01-14
25 Jose Vidal 6-00 190 Right Right 1940-04-03
12 Danny Walton 6-00 200 Right Right 1947-07-14
19 Steve Whitaker 6-01 187 Right Left 1943-05-07
51 Billy Williams 6-03 195 Right Left 1933-06-13
# Other Positions Height Weight Throws Bats Date Of Birth
26 Mike Ferraro 5-11 175 Right Right 1944-08-18
1969 Seattle Pilots Related Links
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The 1969 Seattle Pilots played 162 games during the regular season, won 64 games, lost 98 games, and finished in sixth position. They played their home games at Sicks Stadium (Park Factors: 98/100) where 677,944 fans witnessed their 1969 Pilots finish the season with a .395 winning percentage.

Baseball Almanac is pleased to present a unique set of rosters not easily found on the Internet. Included, where data is available, is a 1969 Seattle Pilots Opening Day starters list, a 1969 Seattle Pilots salary list, a 1969 Seattle Pilots uniform number breakdown and a 1969 Seattle Pilots primary starters list:

1969 Seattle Pilots
Opening Day Starters
Gary Bell
Tommy Davis
Jim Gosger
Tommy Harper
Mike Hegan
Jerry McNertney
Don Mincher
Ray Oyler
Rich Rollins



1969 Seattle Pilots
Most Games by Position

C Jerry McNertney (122)
1B Don Mincher (122)
2B John Donaldson (90)
3B Tommy Harper (59)
SS Ray Oyler (106)
LF Tommy Davis (112)
CF Wayne Comer (92)
RF Mike Hegan (61)

SP Steve Barber
SP Gene Brabender
SP Marty Pattin
SP Fred Talbot

RP Jim Bouton
RP Bob Locker
RP John O'Donoghue
CL Diego Segui


1969 Seattle Pilots
Salaries

Tommy Davis $69,000.00
Gary Bell $40,000.00
Don Mincher $36,500.00
George Brunet $35,000.00
Jim Pagliaroni $30,000.00
Bob Locker $29,500.00
Tommy Harper $25,000.00
Gene Brabender $21,500.00
Bucky Brandon $20,000.00
Ray Oyler $18,800.00
Jerry McNertney $18,000.00
Diego Segui $18,000.00
Fred Talbot $17,000.00
Garry Roggenburk $16,800.00
Jack Aker $16,500.00
Marty Pattin $15,500.00
John Donaldson $14,500.00
John Kennedy $14,500.00
Mike Marshall $13,500.00
Larry Haney $13,000.00
Mike Hegan $13,000.00
John O'Donoghue $12,000.00
Merritt Ranew $12,000.00
Sandy Valdespino $12,000.00
John Morris $11,500.00
Wayne Comer $11,000.00
Gordy Lund $10,000.00
Bob Meyer $10,000.00
Jerry Stephenson $9,600.00
Dick Baney $9,000.00
Fred Stanley $8,500.00
Danny Walton $8,500.00
Steve Hovley $7,500.00
Freddie Velazquez $7,200.00

1969 Seattle Pilots
Uniform Numbers

#1 Ray Oyler
#5 Don Mincher
#8 Mike Hegan
#9 Rich Rollins
#10 John Donaldson
#10 Larry Haney
#11 John Kennedy
#12 Tommy Davis
#12 Danny Walton
#13 Steve Barber
#14 Miguel Fuentes
#14 Jim Gosger
#14 Gordy Lund
#15 Jerry McNertney
#16 Dick Simpson
#17 Jim Pagliaroni
#18 Gus Gil
#19 Steve Whitaker
#20 Wayne Comer
#21 Tommy Harper
#22 Fred Stanley
#23 Jack Aker
#23 Fred Talbot
#24 Diego Segui
#25 John Gelnar
#25 Jose Vidal
#26 Mike Ferraro
#26 Merritt Ranew
#27 Bucky Brandon
#27 Bob Locker
#28 Mike Marshall
#28 Sandy Valdespino
#30 Ron Clark
#30 Freddie Velazquez
#32 Dick Baney
#32 Gene Brabender
#33 Marty Pattin
#34 Greg Goossen
#35 John Morris
#36 Steve Hovley
#38 Bill Edgerton
#38 Bob Meyer
#39 Gary Bell
#39 George Brunet
#39 Garry Roggenburk
#40 Jerry Stephenson
#41 Dooley Womack
#42 Skip Lockwood
#43 John O'Donoghue
#45 Dick Baney
#45 Gary Timberlake
#46 Dick Bates
#50 Gary Timberlake
#51 Billy Williams
#54 Greg Goossen
#55 Bill Edgerton
#56 Jim Bouton
#57 Merritt Ranew



Did you know that a 1969 Seattle Pilots Schedule is available and it includes dates of every game played, scores of every game played, a cumulative record, and many hard to find splits (Monthly Splits, Team vs Team Splits & Score Related Splits)?







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Diego Segui seemed to be a factor in Seattle's
MLB existence as he was on the 1969 Seattle Pilots
roster as well as the Seattle Mariners openening
day roster in 1977. Was hot for the Pilots going 12-6
but for the M's he went 0-7. Finished up his career
with a 92-111 record.

October 15, 1968: Drafted by the Seattle Pilots from the Oakland Athletics as the 14th pick in the 1968 expansion draft.

December 7, 1969: Traded by the Milwaukee Brewers with Ray Oyler to the Oakland Athletics for George Lauzerique and Ted Kubiak.

June 7, 1972: Sent to the St. Louis Cardinals by the Oakland Athletics as part of a conditional deal.

December 7, 1973: Traded by the St. Louis Cardinals with Reggie Cleveland and Terry Hughes to the Boston Red Sox for Lynn McGlothen, John Curtis, and Mike Garman.

April 7, 1976: Released by the Boston Red Sox.

May 29, 1976: Signed as a Free Agent with the San Diego Padres.

October 22, 1976: Purchased by the Seattle Mariners from the San Diego Padres.


-- Edited by The Krink at 02:38, 2008-08-28

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