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Snippy · Force Majeure

RE: Canning and Preserving rampage

wes · Upgraded Condition

Krink,

You will freak out, but here is what works for me.

I don't use regular fruit tree spray. It has all kinds of ugly stuff.

What works well on my Macs is Malthion, used only for two months after petal drop. No worms of any kind at harvest. A hose end sprayer works best.

Snippy · Force Majeure

Go try to restock your Malathion supply.

It's on the shelf right next to the Chlordane.

The Krink · The Forum Celestial Advisor

I just hope one day the apple maggot moths/flys
might just ignore my tree. I still get way more apples
to make sauce/applebutter/pies than I have time
to mess with even with the fact some apples are
useless. There are some Jerry Baker type sprays
that I just never get around to making up and using.
It would be nice like in the past, to put up 9-10
apples into a gigantic baggie and keep several of
them in the garage fridge for future use in the winter/
spring. By the time the apple harvest comes around
each year, I'm damn near plum tuckered out from
months of canning other things. The thought of spraying
dangerous chemicals anywhere on my property is
prohibited. If there is a chink in that therory, it would
lean towards perhaps a chemical for a moss
killer for my roofs. I'm getting too old to be up scraping
moss off my roofs yearly. In the Great Pacific Northwest,
moss on the roof is a fact of life. Now that I'm pet free
I'm tempted to step across the line just this once to
kill some fucking moss.

The Krink · The Forum Celestial Advisor

This would have to fall under the uncanning and
preserving montage. Never know what I might
get into from day to day these days. Today I'm
trying to figure out why my fruitroom is so full of
things and that there is no room to put the new items
I've canned recently into. Well...I figured it out as
I systematically started removing items that had been in
there a good long time. Applesauce from 1996, Beets
from 1995, Green beans from 1997-2003, canned
celery from 1998, canned squash from 1997, tomato
soup from 1998, salsa's from the early 90's, and so
and so on. Managed to fill five 5 gallon buckets of dumped
out canned things and it took several hours to wash out
all the jars involved. Now I got all kinds of room in the
fruitroom. Preserved foods do serve a purpose. It's like
a gamble of sorts that what ever you put away will be
available to you when you really need it. It's putting away
food for another day. Well when things are going great
and the system is running great and your garden is going
great, you get to enjoy fresh. Fresh is always preferable to
preserved. Time marches on and the stuff you've preserved
gets old. Don't get me wrong, preserving food is a good use
of time. You need it...it's there, if you don't need it it's still
there. Depending on how active you are in preserving food
a day will come when you got to throw out stuff. Food insurance
that served it's purpose. Yes it was quite a day.

Brizy · Internet Punk

Pipes, its pretty damn simple on the sauce...I found it in the paper one day and tried it...Ill dig around for it and get back to you...If I remember right, all it was was canned tomatoe sauce, some toamtoe paste, a shit ton of olive oil, and garlic....

Just let the sauce simmer for about 45 min. to get max flavor before canning...

Ill get back to you...

Troll · 500 - Internal Server Error

Woman finds mouse head in frozen beans

An Auckland woman found what looks like a mouse head in a packet of frozen beans

Fri, 24 Oct 2008 5:38p.m.

An Auckland woman wants answers after finding what looks to be a shrunken mouse's head in a packet of fozen food.

Jacquie Lewis is a competitive body builder and eats a lot of frozen vegetables.

But what she found inside a packet of Watties "choice cut" frozen beans has her thinking of sticking to muesli bars.

"I thought it was a little husk or something so I took it out of the microwave and pulled it out, it had eyes looking back at me, which was incredibly nauseating, I thought if this is your head where exactly is the rest of you?," says Lewis.

The unidentified frozen object is about one centimetre wide and Lewis says if she hadn't looked closely she could have eaten it.

Both Heinz-Watties and Auckland Public Health are also asking questions after being contacted by Lewis.

Heinz-Watties say the beans were grown and packaged in Canterbury and occasionally wildlife does get into food products.

"There is a very high likelihood of something else from that mouse bar the head that I have received being in someone else's packet that they may be cooking up perhaps tonight," says Lewis.

And she may be right, Auckland Public Health say they investigate about 200 cases per year of foreign matter in food.

Watties are doing a precautionary withdrawal of the batch of green beans that the offending packet came from.

The batch number is 88270.10, with a best before date of 26 September 2010.

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wes · Upgraded Condition

Sniper,

Ref Malathion--- KY hasn't got around to banding this fine product. Chlorodane has been out of the picture for 15 / 20 years tho.

Let me know how much you need. Sometime there are advantages to living in a backward border state.........................wes aww

The Krink · The Forum Celestial Advisor

Good thing the organic movement is strong these
days as the masses can savor the dangerous
pesticides and the informed make choices leaning
the other way. After growing a vegetable garden
for the last 15+ years, I can see why growers
lean towards the toxic remedies as the pests are
relentless in ruining your harvest. Small farmers
have more alternatives to battle the pests as their
garden is much smaller. Pretty hard to protect a
20-30...80-90 acre expanse of broccoli/cabbage/
lettuce with remay (a thin fabric coverering) to ward
of the pests. The mega farmers have little choice but
to spray the shit on everything. It's sad but they get
the harvest to market the only way they know how.
The organic gardener has to be more intellegent and
resourceful, more vigilante. It's very easy to see why
organic produce costs more. There is a lot more work
involved. I try to grow as many things as I can in my garden
each year but eventually I have to head to the store.
February-March -April-May are the months I most depend
on what my local mega mart can offer. I've tried
winter gardening many times in my locale but I'd starve
to death with the results. It takes some serious coordination
from multiple areas of the country and the sophisticated
cold storage facilities to keep potatoes, carrots and the like
available months after their harvest. We seem much more
dependent on foreign exports during our winter months.
On the grand scale that's an amazing thing really. Winter in the
northern hemisphere, summer in the southern hemisphere and
a free flow to cover both hemisphere's asses, at least I hope
that is the way it works. It's pretty fucking amazing at times to
see how many miles food has traveled to get to your grocery
store. You could stand pat on that being a sure thing forever
or coming up with a viable plan to cover your families ass
without help from a very distant nation. Preservation of everything
possible just like your ancestors did seemed to work.