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Tank cars blow up in Illinois derailment, 1 killed
 

ROCKFORD, Ill. (AP) Tank cars loaded with thousands of gallons of highly flammable ethanol exploded in flames as a freight train derailed, killing one person and forcing evacuations of hundreds of nearby homes.

Five tank cars continued burning Saturday morning and officials said they would wait for the "very dangerous" inferno to burn out by itself. Federal investigators headed to the scene Saturday.

Rockford Fire Chief Derek Bergsten said 74 of the train's 114 cars were filled with ethanol, or ethyl alcohol.

At the height of the fire Friday night, 14 rail cars were ablaze, said Canadian National Railway Company spokesman Patrick Waldron.

Eighteen cars, all containing ethanol, left the tracks in the derailment about 9 p.m. Friday, Waldron said.

The cause of the derailment had not been determined. Reports that it was caused by a washout of the tracks following heavy rain were "not a certainty and this remains under investigation," Waldron said.

Officials evacuated the area on the edge of Rockford, about 80 miles northwest of Chicago, Friday night amid concerns about air pollution.

Winnebago County Coroner Sue Fiduccia said early Saturday the death was that of a female who was in a car waiting for the train to pass a crossing near the derailment site.

Bergsten said three other people ran from the car when it was bombarded with flying railroad ties and they were severely burned by flaming ethanol. They were taken to OSF Saint Anthony Medical Center in serious to critical condition, and one was transferred to Stroger Hospital in Chicago, he said.

Two crewmen on the eastbound Canadian National train escaped injury, Waldron said. The engine crew was able to pull 64 cars away from the scene.

Witnesses told the Rockford Register-Star that cars on the Chicago-bound train began hydroplaning in standing water as it approached the crossing. Some of them left the tracks moments before two of them exploded.

Parts of northern Illinois may have gotten as much as 4 inches of rain Friday, said meteorologist Gino Izzi of the National Weather Service. Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, 40 to 50 miles east of Rockford, measured 3.6 inches, a record for the date, he said.

Kirk Wilson, a fire chief in nearby Rockton, said he expected the ethanol to continue burning until later Saturday.

"We're letting the product burn itself out," he said. "We can't get too close to it. We're observing everything through binoculars from about 200 or 300 feet away."

"The situation is not under control, but we are making progress in getting it under control," said Wilson, whose department was one of at least 26 that went to the derailment scene. "It's very dangerous. It's very explosive. We're not risking any firefighters' lives."

The National Transportation Safety Board sent a 14-member team investigate. Railroad Investigator Stephen Klejst will lead the team, the NTSB said in a statement. Canadian National and the Federal Railroad Administration will assist.

Officials evacuated residents of about 600 homes within a half-mile of the derailment, Bergsten said. He said potentially toxic fumes should keep them out of their homes until environmental officials give them the green light to return. The American Red Cross set up shelters at nearby churches.

"At first I thought it was a tornado because they always say a tornado sounds like a train coming," said Jeff Tilley, a Register-Star employee who lives near the scene of the derailment.

Alicia Zatkowski, a spokeswoman for ComEd, said the derailment knocked out power to about 1,000 of the Chicago-based utility's Rockford-area customers.



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Finally! A train that sounds like a tornado:


"At first I thought it was a tornado because they always say a tornado sounds like a train coming," said Jeff Tilley, a Register-Star employee who lives near the scene of the derailment.

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Iahve notaced a lot of rail cars have no threads

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If I was evacuated I would head for a five star hotel or something. Red cross evacuation center my ass.

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CN chief executive officer Hunter Harrison said in a recent message to employees that the freight carrier is trying its best to control costs during the recession.

"We are restricting overtime, and we continue to cut back on all discretionary spending and unproductive costs. We've told our managers that there will not be pay increases for them in 2009," he said.



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NTSB eyes water on rails at site of derailment
ROCKFORD, Ill. Federal authorities say it appears there was high water along the rail line where a freight train derailed about 80 miles northwest of Chicago. One person died, according to reports.

The crew of the Canadian National Railway train was reporting high water along the tracks at the moment its cars started to derail.

Robert Sumwalt of the National Transportation Safety Board said Sunday it's unclear what the exact water levels were during Friday's crash and what role if any that played in the accident.

A member of the UTU Transportation Safety Team is on the scene to provide assistance, as requested, to the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Railroad Administrator investigators.

Sumwalt says the agency has conducted initial interviews with the train's crew, and investigators are looking for witnesses.

Parts of northern Illinois may have gotten as much as 4 inches of rain Friday, according to the National Weather Service. Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, 40 to 50 miles east of Rockford, measured 3.6 inches, a record for the date.

Railway officials say 18 rail cars loaded with ethanol left the tracks, exploding into flames.

The train was an eastbound Canadian National freight train with 114 cars, 70 of which were carrying flammable liquids, according to reports. Some of the cars were hauling ethanol and flames could be seen for miles late Friday night.

The track where a freight train derailed Friday night was found in good shape Friday afternoon during a regularly scheduled inspection by Canadian National Railway employees, federal investigators said Saturday.

The train was traveling 34 mph at the time of the accident, well below the 50 mph speed limit, according to information retrieved from the trains data system. Because the train was leaving an urban area, it was accelerating, Sumwalt said.

The emergency brake went off at 8:36 p.m., but wasnt deployed by the trains engineer, Sumwalt said. While he wouldnt confirm what set it off, he said the brake can be set off by train cars separating from each other.

Federal regulations require train conductors to take appropriate measures when there are reports of high water, which can mean slowing down and stopping, if necessary.

An earlier train did not report water where the accident occurred, Sumwalt said. But there was a report being made from the train that derailed about high water between mile posts 84.5 and 81.

Zoila Tellez, 41, of Rockford abandoned her car at a rail crossing and made it 20 feet before she fell and died.

A 17-year-old girl injured in the accident was in critical but stable condition Sunday at the burn unit of Chicago's Stroger Hospital, said spokesman Marcel Bright.

Investigators couldn't get close to the accident site until Sunday because several tank cars burned through Saturday evening.

Robert Ellison, a local train buff and businessman, was at a crossing three miles west when the train passed him. He and his wife were the first car in line at the crossing when the ethanol cars passed.

I said, If that thing derails with all that ethanol, were ash in a flash, he said.

Ellison said theres a creek near the tracks that overflows in heavy rains. He said the track bed near South Mulford Road had been washed out during floods in 2006 and 2007 and repaired each time. Officials could not confirm that and said they would investigate repair records.

Meanwhile, the Canadian National Railway, owner of the train that derailed in southeast Rockford Friday night, has set up a community assistance center.

The center will operate from Our Shepherd of the Valley Lutheran Church, 2715 S. Mulford Road.

CN spokesman Patrick Waldron says the center will reimburse out-of-pocket expenses for families affected by the evacuation order.

Families will be served alphabetically by last name:

Tuesday: A through I

Wednesday: J through Q

Thursday: R through Z

Friday: Open for anybody who missed their designated day.

The center will open from 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. each day.

Waldron says proof of residency is required, but you don't need an appointment.

(This item was compiled from information provided by the Associated Press, the Rockford, Ill., Register Star and UTU editors.)

 

June 22, 2009


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Crew was reporting high water as cars left track

(The following story by Mike Wiser appeared on the Rockford Register-Star website on June 21, 2009.)

ROCKFORD, Ill. The crew of the Canadian National Railway train was reporting high water along the tracks at the moment its cars started to derail.

That was one of the findings released Sunday by National Transportation Safety Board member Robert Sumwalt during an afternoon news conference about Fridays fiery derailment that left one person dead and several injured and sent emergency crews from around the region to the scene.

Sumwalts comments came after the first full day of investigation by federal transportation officials who are trying to determine what caused the dual-engine, 114-car freight train to derail Friday night.

Weve been busy and productive, Sumwalt said at the news conference at the Residence Inn near Rockfords far east side. It is expected to be the final briefing NTSB officials will conduct in town.

But theres still a long way to go, Sumwalt continued. Were in the fact-gathering phase now.

High water

So far, speculation about the cause of the derailment has centered on Fridays heavy downpour and what effect it may have had on the trains grip on the tracks.

But neither Sumwalt nor lead investigator Steve Klejst could say what caused 18 of the trains 78 tanker cars to derail at mile post 80 at about 8:35 p.m. Friday. Sumwalt said it will likely take a year or more for any findings to be released.

Still, a good portion of Sumwalts presentation dealt with when and where reports of high water were that night. He said an earlier CN train reported high water between mile posts 16 and 57, which is east of the derailment site, around 3:30 p.m. when it passed through that area.

Klejst said federal regulations require train conductors to take appropriate measures when there are reports of high water, which can mean slowing down and stopping, if necessary.

The earlier train did not report water where the accident occurred, Sumwalt said. But there was a report being made from the train that derailed about high water between mile posts 84.5 and 81.

That report was being made just as the first tanker car went off the track as I understand it, Sumwalt said.

The train was accelerating at the time, going from a speed of about 19 miles an hour to 34 miles per hour when the cars derailed.

But I wouldnt read too much into that, Sumwalt said. When they said high water, we dont know how high the water was.

Gas line hit
Much of Sunday's investigation involved site work, such as examining the train cars and about five miles of track leading up to the derailment site.

Sumwalt said investigators did not find any problems with the cars that stayed on the track and plan on examining the cars that derailed Monday.

A small rail bridge was also examined and was determined to be functioning normally. The physical investigation also revealed something that potentially could have been a big problem: A gas line that was buried near the tracks was hit.

The protective casing was breached, but not the pipe, Sumwalt said. It shows that those protective casings do what they are designed to do.

Sumwalt said the gas pipe, which ran perpendicular to the track, appeared to have been struck by part of the track after the ground softened because of the rain and the weight of the freight pushed it down into the earth.

Winding down

It wasnt clear how long federal investigators will remain in town, but, Klejst said, Mulford Road near the accident will likely be shut down for another three or four days while investigators continue their work.

Initial interviews with the train crew have been completed, Sumwalt said, and more interviews are scheduled for later his week with dispatchers and others.

Investigators are also looking for eyewitnesses.

We want to reach out to the people who might have witnessed something before, during or immediately after the derailment, Sumwalt said.

If you witnessed the accident, please call the Winnebago County Sheriffs Department, 815-319-6300, to make a report.

Monday, June 22, 2009



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CN critics say accident raises safety issues
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4:09 PM CDT, June 22, 2009
CHICAGO - Opponents of increasing freight-train traffic through residential areas say a deadly derailment in northern Illinois illustrates the need to boost safety on U.S. rail networks.

Several tank cars on the Canadian National Railway train derailed and exploded on the edge of Rockford Friday, killing one woman.

A coalition that opposed CN's recent purchase of the Elgin, Joliet and Eastern Railway line that swings around Chicago says the accident supports its contention that CN trains aren't safe enough.

The group, called TRAC, has long said that CN plans to run more trains on the EJ&E poses a safety risk.

CN spokesman Patrick Waldron says TRAC's characterization of CN's safety record is wrong. He says CN has one of the safest operations in North America.

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I thought I'd look at the pics but I should have known. Troll, why bother?




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I thought I'd look at the pics but I should have known. Troll, why bother?


I am not a premium member over at Drain Limits.

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I was a Heritage member but he did away with those, thought they were taking all his bandwidth.  Even though they couldn't look at anything other than messages.  Never quite got that, it was just an excuse.  Odd, indeed.

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