Railroaders place to shoot the shit.

Hoghead Bob · Unstable

RE: You bastards forgot to mark your calendars

Cy Valley · Upgraded Condition

Bob, it stands for Chessie and Seaboard, with the X meaning united and stronger than ever. Or something close to that.

Freddie Krueger · Unstable & Irrational

X= mutlitplied.

Cy Valley · Upgraded Condition

Freddie Krueger wrote:

X= mutlitplied.

Yeah, that's it. Yeah, multiplied, I forgot about the multiplied part, I was thinking MORE. Wait a minute, multiplied would be more, wouldn't it. That's the ticket.

The Krink · The Forum Celestial Advisor

Cy Valley wrote:

Yeah, I once saw a list of some of the proposed names, some of them made about as much sense and sounded as railroad-like as CSX, which I always thought sucks for a name. Anyway, Southern took over Norfolk Southern back when and one of the things they just had to do was convert their low-nosed locos into high-nosed locos. I always wondered, why was that so necessary?

Thanks Cy. I dug out a May/June 1980 Official Guide of the Railways
and on the Southern Ry system map it shows the NS as being assimulated.
"Resistance is futile". You have to look back on the Southern and the
N&W and the list of railroads that "became" theirs over time. A lot
of turbulance in the railroad employment situation for the affected.
They keep talking about some day a mega merger of the "giants",
like BNSF/CSX or UP/NS or BNSF/KCS/CN or .... who the fuck knows.
Just know it's not going to be good for a lot of employees.

Calvin · Upgraded Condition?

The Krink wrote:

A lot
of turbulance in the railroad employment situation for the affected.
They keep talking about some day a mega merger of the "giants",
like BNSF/CSX or UP/NS or BNSF/KCS/CN or .... who the fuck knows.
Just know it's not going to be good for a lot of employees.

They got rid of cram down. When a merger occurs again, the unions will get thier pick of agreements to implement. Since the B&O agreement is almost the worst one, us CSX'ers have nothing to worry about....unless we do a parallel merger with NS...Naw...Never happen.

Calvin · Upgraded Condition?

Calvin wrote:

They got rid of cram down. When a merger occurs again, the unions will get thier pick of agreements to implement.

Watch this to be changed by the company lapdog tho....

-- Edited by Calvin on Wednesday 21st of October 2009 08:12:32 AM

BlackDog · Purveyor of Positive Attitudes

Calvin wrote:

Calvin wrote:

They got rid of cram down. When a merger occurs again, the unions will get thier pick of agreements to implement.
This is big factor in mergers, cause they were so shit hot on merging till this came about. All the plans were in till they nixed BN and one of the Canadien Railroads, Said a foreign country company cannot own an American railroad.
But then they thought it was OK when KCS bought the Mexicans out...

Ummm, CN is still a foreign company, technically. IC, WC, GTW, DW&P, DM&IR, B&LE, and EJ&E were american. When the CN was courting DM&IR there was speculation it wasn't going to happen because the holding company wanted to sell LINTCO all of it's US steel properties, including the steamship lines. There was an act, I believe it was called the Jones Act, that prevents american flagged steamship companies from being owned by a foreign company. I am not sure how LINTCO managed to get around it, but there are only 2 locomotives in service today in the old DM&IR paint scheme...

-- Edited by BlackDog on Thursday 22nd of October 2009 01:51:30 AM

Calvin · Upgraded Condition?

BlackDog wrote:

Calvin wrote:

Calvin wrote:

They got rid of cram down. When a merger occurs again, the unions will get thier pick of agreements to implement.
This is big factor in mergers, cause they were so shit hot on merging till this came about. All the plans were in till they nixed BN and one of the Canadien Railroads, Said a foreign country company cannot own an American railroad.
But then they thought it was OK when KCS bought the Mexicans out...

Ummm, CN is still a foreign company, technically. IC, WC, GTW, DW&P, DM&IR, B&LE, and EJ&E were american. When the CN was courting DM&IR there was speculation it wasn't going to happen because the holding company wanted to sell LINTCO ALL of it's US steel properties, including the steamship lines. There was an act, I believe it was called the Jones Act that prevets american flagged steamship companies from being owned by a foreign company. I am not sure how LINTCO managed to get around it, but there are only 2 locomotives in service today in the old DM&IR pain scheme...

I thought of that and came back to change it. Your post wasnt there. as soon as

I hit enter there was your post. I still had my finger on my post (like chess) so it was still my move...PPPBBBLLLBBBLLLBBB!!

BlackDog · Purveyor of Positive Attitudes

U snuze, u luze.

And let us not forget the "lowly" CP taking over WC-ex, umm, I mean, DM&E. (Where all the asshole rat bastard WC managers went tu fnish out their career when they realized that LINTCO had it's own asshole rat-bastard managers and didn't need them any more.

TIME!

Troll · 500 - Internal Server Error

Hoghead Bob wrote:

What the hell does CSX stand for? Besides chicken shit express.

Confederate States Express.

They finally invaded the north in '99.

-- Edited by Troll on Wednesday 21st of October 2009 08:53:55 AM

The Krink · The Forum Celestial Advisor

The BN merger set in stone so many possibilities for the
employees. They're guaranteed a job more or less. On the
BN we had "orange" book employees (GN-NP-CBQ) that
were employeed at the time of the merger and then in 1980
with the Frisco merger, all BN employees were guaranteed
under the "blue book" agreement. The blue book was great
up until the BN/ATSF merger. The "blue booker's" got fucked
over with a clause that forced your move 2000 miles to protect
that "guarantee". The BNSF moved swiftly to fuck over the clerks
by eliminating every clerks/opr job in the field system wide. They
created several "clerks warehouses" in Topeka and Fort Worthless.
I sensed the end and took their 100K buyout. Mergers benefit no
body. Yeah you could be located in the extended arm and not affected
or it can be genocide if located in a joint terminal. I don't have to
play the game anymore but I know how it works.

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