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Triple Crown derails again

By SUSAN MCMILLAN   Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:25 PM EST

UPDATE: The crossings were clear by Sunday afternoon.

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Register photo/LAURA WOOLF Triple Crown cars are derailed crossing Venice Road in Sandusky on Saturday, January 9, 2010. Police said the accident could take days to clean up.

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A trail derailed at Venice Road on Saturday for the second time in less than four months.

No one was hurt, and the 20 Triple Crown cars that went of the rails were empty.

Sandusky fire Capt. Brian Cowie said the train was either stopped or moving very slowly when the derailment occurred at about 4 p.m. The engineer tried to start or speed up the train, but it wouldnt move. Looking behind him, he noticed the cars off the tracks.

Some of their cars lay on their side in the snow at the curve north of Venice Road, while others leaned only slightly.

Authorities had Venice Road blocked to traffic at Edgewater Drive, and traffic was being diverted up Edgewater to West Monroe Street, where the railroad crossing was clear.

Venice Road, Olds Street and Mills Street remained closed late Saturday night, although Tiffin Avenue was being opened, Cowie said.

Kyle Trimarche, a Triple Crown foreman, said a broken air line may have caused the derailment.

He said the train had 150 cars and that getting all the cars back onto the tracks would be a long process, although roads could be open sooner.

Itll probably be a couple of days until we get everything cleaned up, he said.

The cars that tipped were empty, but others two or three cars away, on the other side of Venice Road, had full loads, some of them hazardous. He would not say exactly what was in the cars.

In September 2009, 11 Triple Crown trailers semi trailers outfitted with track wheels at one end and hitched together to form a train partially tipped over on the same curve. The trailers were empty.

In October 2007, a similar incident involved 17 Triple Crown trailers, carrying toilet paper and paper towels. That was eventually traced to a too-short air line connector between two cars; the line came loose as the cars moved around the curve.

As in the other two incidents, rail cars lay tipped at an angle toward the inside of the curve, though some lay on their side further on. One car knocked over the crossing gate and lights on the east side of the crossing

Triple Crown trains cannot be broken like regular trains in which the railcars sit on two sets of track wheels and can stand on their own making it more diffcult to clear a railroad crossing if a train gets into trouble.

Editorial page editor Don Lee contributed to this story.

http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2010/01/10/front/doc4b48f66833137894299079.txt



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"Think how much money we can make if we can run em 150 at a time"

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I know!

Triple Crown® DP

Run 'em by the hundreds!

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That's a pretty good bend that has to be handled with care.

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"Pretty obvious train handling problem," says Markus.

"Execute the bastard for causing us public humiliation and bringing shame upon the Harry Man."

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A broken air line? Maybe the one that keeps the rail wheels down and the highway wheels up? I seem to recall thats the problem CSX had with those trailers, and the main reason CSX quit running them. Its a bitch when those hiway wheels come down on the rail....



http://www.sanduskyregister.com/articles/2010/01/10/front/doc4b48f66833137894299079.txt

Sandusky fire Capt. Brian Cowie said the train was either stopped or moving very slowly when the derailment occurred at about 4 p.m. The engineer tried to start or speed up the train, but it wouldnt move. Looking behind him, he noticed the cars off the tracks.

Kyle Trimarche, a Triple Crown foreman, said a broken air line may have caused the derailment.
He said the train had 150 cars and that getting all the cars back onto the tracks would be a long process

Itll probably be a couple of days until we get everything cleaned up, he said.

The cars that tipped were empty, but others two or three cars away, on the other side of Venice Road, had full loads, some of them hazardous. He would not say exactly what was in the cars.

In September 2009, 11 Triple Crown trailers semi trailers outfitted with track wheels at one end and hitched together to form a train partially tipped over on the same curve. The trailers were empty.

In October 2007, a similar incident involved 17 Triple Crown trailers, carrying toilet paper and paper towels. That was eventually traced to a too-short air line connector between two cars; the line came loose as the cars moved around the curve.

As in the other two incidents, rail cars lay tipped at an angle toward the inside of the curve, though some lay on their side further on. One car knocked over the crossing gate and lights on the east side of the crossing



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The highway wheels don't "come down" these days.

They ride on detachable rail bogeys.

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Snippy wrote:

The highway wheels don't "come down" these days.

They ride on detachable rail bogeys.



http://www.triplecrownsvc.com/pdf/Customer%20Information%204-page%202006-02-27.pdf

Triple Crown RoadRailer® trailers ride on rail bogies
with slack-free coupling, minimizing the risk of cargo
damage that could be caused by shifting freight.
Each RoadRailer® is backed on the rail track where the air-ride system raises the trailer above the bogie. When aligned, the air system lowers the trailer onto the bogie and lifts the tires off the track.

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-- Edited by Calvin on Monday 11th of January 2010 10:11:25 AM

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Hmmm. Looking at the last pic in the brochure, it looks like they have couplers on the rear for pushers. I can't imagine trying tu run one of those hot trains with the locomotive pointed the wrong way. Doesn't that cut the dyno's out when you run them like that?

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Calvin wrote:

A broken air line?

Causing a stringline derailment possibility when the rail brakes shoot in a tight curve, heavy locomotive loading, light lading situation.

Maybe the one that keeps the rail wheels down and the highway wheels up?

No, there is no rail wheels down/ highway wheels up air line/mechanism like there used to be.  As your picture shows, the rail wheels are independent and always down. The trailer lifts to the bogie with the air lift. No air, no lift.

I seem to recall thats the problem CSX had with those trailers, and the main reason CSX quit running them. Its a bitch when those hiway wheels come down on the rail....

 

The highway wheels  fail up. (Air lifts the trailer off the wheels.) Opposite of what the original all-in-one highway/rail bogies did.



-- Edited by Snippy on Monday 11th of January 2010 12:06:58 PM

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I seem to recall thats the problem CSX had with those trailers, and the main reason CSX quit running them. Its a bitch when those hiway wheels come down on the rail....



CSX quit running them because they discovered they couldn't compete with superior LAMCO methods. I think.

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I seem to recall thats the problem CSX had with those trailers, and the main reason CSX quit running them. Its a bitch when those hiway wheels come down on the rail....



CSX quit running them because they discovered they couldn't compete with superior LAMCO methods. I think.




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And Tony and Dave begat Dave and Cindy.  And the Greater Northern Eastern Near Midwestern Region.

 



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Cy Valley wrote:

CSX quit running them because they discovered they couldn't compete with superior LAMCO methods. I think.

There are a lot of people who used to use roadrailers...Alliance, Amtrak, BNSF, Canadian National, Clipper, CSX, Excel, Ice Cold Express, Santa Fe, Schneider,Swift, TMM logistics, Union Pacific.

   



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